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EVENING.GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I'M THE CHAIR OF THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
UH, IT IS NOW A LITTLE BIT PAST 1245.
UH, TODAY I'M JOINED BY LEGISLATOR HUSKY, UM, LEGISLATOR SMITH.
UH, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.
UM, COULD SOMEBODY GO FI DERON? ONE MORE PERSON.
WELL, I COULD PROVIDE A LITTLE ENTERTAINMENT.
SMILE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BREAKING WHEN THERE ARE CLOUDS IN THE SKY.
HEY, YOU'LL GET BY IF YOU SMILE
MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL TAKE A CLIP OF THAT.
WE NEED A LITTLE NAT KING COLE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
I WAS SINGING SMILE A MINUTE AGO.
MS. PEYTON, WOULD YOU MIND JOINING US FOR OUR COMMITTEE? I WOULD LOVE TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
[ORDINANCES IN COMMITTEE]
[AN ORDINANCE submitting to the qualified voters of Jackson County, Missouri, at the general election to be held on April 7, 2026, a question to amend the Jackson County Charter, with an effective date.]
ONE ORDINANCE IN COMMITTEE, UH, ORDINANCE 6 0 5 9, AN ORDINANCE SUBMITTING TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF JACKSON COUNTY, MISSOURI AT THE GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON APRIL 7TH, 2026.A QUESTION TO AMEND THE JACKSON COUNTY CHARTER WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS LEGISLATOR SEAN SMITH'S, UM, LEGISLATION TO, UH, AND I BELIEVE WE AMENDED IT IN COMMITTEE LAST WEEK, UM, TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT WOULD BE IN AUGUST.
I KNOW THIS IS PUSHING FOR AN ELECTED AUDITOR, UH, THAT WOULD MAKE AN AUDIT POSITION NONPARTISAN AND WOULD BE ELECTED IN 2028.
UM, I HAVE STILL SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMITTEE, WE CAN HOLD IT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HOLD THIS ORDINANCE AND COMMITTEE, UH,
[RESOLUTIONS IN COMMITTEE]
[A RESOLUTION authorizing the County Executive to execute an Intergovernmental Cooperative Agreement with the City of Oak Grove to provide for the mill and overlay of pavement on the shared portions of Robinson and White Roads, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $121,595.00. ]
RESOLUTIONS AND COMMITTEE.WE HAVE ONE, UH, 2 2 1 8 3 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO EXECUTE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF OAK GROVE TO PROVIDE FOR THE MILL AND OVERLAY OF PAVEMENT ON THE SHARED PORTIONS OF ROBINSON AND WHITE ROADS AT AN ACTUAL COST TO THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $121,000 595.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, LADIES OF THE COMMITTEE, BRIAN GATY PUBLIC WORKS.
I BELIEVE, UH, WHITNEY IS PASSING OUT AN AMENDMENT TO THIS RESOLUTION.
UM, BUT AS STATED, THIS RESOLUTION REQUESTS THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE INTER AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF OAK GROVE TO COST SHARE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE OWNED BY BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, COUNTY ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF OAK GROVE TO PLAN FOR THESE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, UH, TO OCCUR ON BOTH WHITE AND ROBINSON ROADS.
BOTH ROADS REQUIRE STANDARD MILL AND OVERLAY OR SURFACING, AND THEY'RE PART OF THE CITY'S 26 ROAD PROGRAM.
UH, CITY HAS REQUESTED TO TAKE THE LEAD IN THE EFFORT AND WILL BID THE WORK.
AS SOON AS THIS AGREEMENT IS FINALIZED, THE CITY WILL MANAGE ALL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, THOUGH COUNTY STAFF WILL BE INVOLVED TO ENSURE QUALITY ASSURANCE IS ACHIEVED.
UH, THE CITY HAS ESTIMATED THE COUNTY, UH, OWNED PORTION OF THE WORK TO BE APPROXIMATELY $121,595, WHICH WE HAVE AGREED TO THEORETICALLY NOW THAT WHAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED IN YOUR, UH, AMENDMENT IS, UM, UH, ALTERING THE RESOLUTION TO ALLOW THE CITY TO INVOICE THE COUNTY FOR ACTUAL COSTS.
SO WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN THESE ARRANGEMENTS IS WE GIVE, THEY GIVE AN ESTIMATE OF SAYING, HEY, YOUR PORTION'S GOING TO BE REST ROUGHLY THIS AMOUNT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ACTUAL PORTION WILL BE UNTIL IT'S BID, UNTIL THEY GET THOSE NUMBERS BACK.
NOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY WITHIN PROXIMITY TO WHAT THEY
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HAVE PROVIDED AS THEIR ESTIMATE, BUT IT MAY ALTER SLIGHTLY, BUT IT WILL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN THE PACKET.UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A, A SITUATION THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL.
UH, THE COUNTY OWNS A LOT, UH, AND SHARES A LOT OF RESOURCES AND ASSETS WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
AND THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN REALLY IMPROVE THESE, UM, ASSETS THAT WE DO CONJOIN OWN WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IS TO DO SIMILAR INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENTS SUCH AS THIS.
I TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WHAT, SO WHEN IT SAYS CHANGING IT, UH, TO ESTIMATED, DO YOU SUSPECT THAT THIS WILL GO OVER 121,000? THE ESTIMATE ESTIMATE WAS PROVIDED IN THE FALL.
UH, IT'S LIKELY THAT JUST THE COST INDEXES DO RISE, UH, AND LOWER, UH, WITH TIME.
UH, OIL INDEXES HAVEN'T CHANGED VERY MUCH LAST WEEK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS WEEK'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
IT COULD ALTER, UM, BUT IT, THAT THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE.
AND WE'LL GET THE ACTUAL ESTIMATES AND BIDS THAT ARE RECORDED BY THE CITY OF OAK GROVE BEFORE WE RECEIVE ANY INVOICES OR PAY ANY AMOUNT.
SO IF, IF IT, AND AGAIN, I DON'T SUSPECT IT'LL GO BEYOND VERY HIGH, HOW DOES THIS GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO GO PAST THE SAID NUMBER IN THE LEGISLATION? SO IF IT'S LIKE $130,000, IF THIS, UH, IS ESTIMATED, UH, AND YOU HAVE THE AMOUNT AT 1 21, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VERY CLEAN PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
AND DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ATYPICAL BECAUSE WE DO LOOK FOR A VERY SOLID AMOUNT.
UM, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
UH, SO, UM, WE'RE KIND OF JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, REPLICATING WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.
UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO SEE DIFFERENT, WE'RE HAPPY TO CHANGE THAT EITHER NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.
I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BOTH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND THE CITY OAK GROVE WANNA GET MOVING ON.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING MORE DEFINITIVE WE NEED TO DO, UM, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE REPLICATED IN THE PAST.
I'LL OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M LOOKING AT THE NEW DOCUMENT THAT THE, UM, GOT ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE.
AND DOWN AT THE BOTTOM BEFORE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION SIGNS, IT STATES NOT TO EXCEED ESTIMATED VALUE.
SO BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, NOT TO GO OVER THAT AMOUNT.
SO THE NOT TO EXCEED PORTION IS WHAT WILL COME OUT.
THAT'S THE BRACKETED PORTION THERE.
SO NOT TO EXCEED 1 21 5 9 5 WILL COME OUT AND THE ESTIMATED VALUE WILL GO IN.
SO YOU'RE GONNA REMOVE THAT PART.
SO THE CITY OF OAK GROVE, EXCUSE ME, IS ACTUALLY GOING TO, UM, EVALUATE THE BIDDERS AND COME UP WITH THE BIDDERS AND THEN YOU WILL JUST GET OUR COST AS A COUNTY.
SO HOW THESE, THESE INTERGOVERNMENTAL, UH, AGREEMENTS TYPICALLY WORK WHEN WE COST SHARE ROAD WORK IS WHOEVER BIDS THE WORK, UM, THEN, YOU KNOW, IS IS OPEN AND TRANSPARENT, SUPPLIES ALL THE INFORMATION, AND THEN WHEN THE COST SHARING OCCURS, IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT AGREEMENT BASED ON THEIR BIDS.
SO THEIR BID PROCESS IN THAT IT IS AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL, UM, BIDDING EVENT, UM, ARE THEY LIABLE TO COMPLY WITH WHAT WE REQUIRE AS A COUNTY AS WELL? THEY WOULD BID BASED ON THEIR PROCUREMENT RULES, WHETHER THAT'S ORDINANCE OR JUST PRACTICE.
AND THEIR PROCUREMENT RULES MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS THE COUNTY'S PROCUREMENT RULES.
SO WE WOULD HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IN REGARDS TO M-B-E-W-B-E IN REGARDS TO PREVAILING WAGE.
WE WOULD HAVE NO IDEA, BUT WE WILL STILL ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
A LOT OF WHAT YOU JUST REQUESTED IS, IS STATE STATUTE, RIGHT? PREVAILING WAGE IS STATE STATUTE.
UM, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO ABIDE BY THAT.
UM, NOW THEY'RE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ORDINANCES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE BE SIMILAR TO OURS, UM, OR I'M NOT EVEN SURE, UH, WHAT EXACTLY THE STATE STATUTE WOULD REQUIRE.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE, WE WOULD ABIDE BY THEIR PROCUREMENT RULES.
LIKE I SAID, THIS HAS BEEN DONE NUMEROUS TIMES AND WE WOULD JUST YIELD TO THEIR RULES AND NOT HAVE ANY INPUT IN THAT REGARD OURSELVES.
WE'RE JUST GONNA SAY WHATEVER YOU SAY, AND THAT MAY BE HOW INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS OPERATE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY.
THE, THE AGREEMENT DOES HAVE SOME, SOME, UH, DETAILS IN HOW THEY WOULD GO ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS PROCESSES.
UH, BUT YEAH, WE'VE DONE THIS WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHERE WE TAKE THE LEAD, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD WHERE WE HAVE
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FOLLOWED AND THAT'S FINE.I MEAN THAT'S FINE AND GOOD AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO.
IT'S NOT LIKE THIS'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEFORE YOU.
BECAUSE, UM, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN OF MINE AS WE ENTER AS A COUNTY IF WE HAVE THESE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD ENTER INTO ANY TYPE OF AGREEMENT WITH, UM, REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE LESS THAN WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT OF OUR OWN SELVES.
UM, ALSO I SHARE THE CONCERN OF LEGISLATOR ANDERSON, UH, WITH THE NOT TO EXCEED.
BECAUSE IF WE DO HAVE, IF WE SAY THAT, UH, WE ARE ESTIMATING 121,000 AND IT'S 130,000 AND WE WOULD, OR 150,000 EVEN, AND WE ARE ENTERING INTO THIS, AND I DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERM BLINDLY, BUT WE'RE ENTERING INTO THIS COOPERATIVELY TRUSTING THAT THE BID PROCESS IS GOING TO BE A BID PROCESS THAT WE AS A COUNTY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT OUR COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT IS COMFORTABLE WITH.
SO IF IT'S 150,000 OR 130,000, WHAT FORM OF COMMUNICATION WILL HAPPEN WITH THE LEGISLATURE? AND I UNDERSTAND THE WAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, WE, WE, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU WOULD REQUIRE ME TO PRESENT.
UH, BUT ONCE I WOULD FEEL THAT ONCE THE THE AGREEMENT IS APPROVED, IT'D BE EXECUTED BY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OR, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROCESS.
IF, I MEAN, I COULD DO IT FROM A COURTESY STANDPOINT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD REALLY CHANGE THE LEGISLATION.
ANY ARE YOU FINISHED? I AM FINISHED.
MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, WHO LED THIS INITIATIVE? THIS, THIS EFFORT? WHO, WHO, WHO INITIATED THIS DISCUSSION NEGOTIATION? ALL OF THIS BECAUSE I, MY NAME IS A SPONSOR, BUT I'M UNAWARE OF THIS LEGISLATION COMPLETELY.
SO I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW IT GOT TO THIS POINT COMPLETELY.
HOW A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT HAS MY NAME ON IT WAS INTRODUCED.
WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SIGNING THEM AND I SIGNED OFF AND SAID YES, MOVE FORWARD.
I'M JUST UNAWARE OF LEGISLATION BEING INTRODUCED IN THIS WAY.
I MEAN, I, I APPRECIATE THE PROJECT AND WANNA SEE SOMETHING GET DONE HERE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
AND THE BIG ONE FOR ME AND FOR I THINK ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES IS WHY LEGISLATION GETS INTRODUCED BY THE EXECUTIVE SIDE, PUSHED THROUGH AND INTRODUCED BY A LEGISLATOR THAT'S UNAWARE OF THE LEGISLATION THEY'VE INTRODUCED.
NOW I WILL SAY, UM, SINCE YOU MADE THE REQUEST THAT WE BE NOTIFIED, I WILL SAY JAMIA HAS NOTIFIED ME EVERY TIME SOMETHING IS COMING OUT WITH MY NAME ON IT TO GO INTO GRANICUS AND APPROVE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEING THE NORM AND THE STANDARD, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO THE ONES THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE NORMALLY BEEN MADE AWARE OF.
UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT NOTIFICATION IS ONE THING.
I THINK APPROVAL IS WHAT I'M SEEKING HERE.
BECAUSE NO ONE CAN INTRODUCE LEGISLATION EXCEPT FOR US.
AND THE ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO SEND OVER LEGISLATION TO BE INTRODUCED ON OUR NAMES FOR WHICH WE DON'T SIGN OFF ON.
AND SO, WELL I'VE HAD TO SIGN OFF ON THESE THAT SHE SENT RECENTLY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A MOST RECENT CHANGE BEFORE THIS WAS INSTITUTED, BUT I DID NOT WANT TO NEGATE THAT YOU REQUESTED THAT THIS BE DONE AND I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN.
SO FOR THE BUDGET COMMITTEE ANYWAY, SO I'LL MOVE TO WITHDRAW, UM, EVENTUALLY IN THE LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE COMMITTEE A HEADS UP, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE PROJECT, UM, BUT BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH THE PROCESS.
UM, THE OTHER CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS THAT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WITH WHICH YOU CAN SEND IT MOU TO DICTATE WHAT THE PROCESS WILL BE.
UM, THAT WE DO USE OUR COMPLIANCE BECAUSE IT IS MORE STRICT.
THERE ARE ALSO PROCESSES FOR WHICH DICTATE THE MORE STRICT OF THE TWO GOVERNMENT ENTITIES BE UTILIZED.
UH, THAT'S NOT INDICATED HERE, INCLUDING OUR, UH, MBE AS WELL AS OUR UH, UM, RBO LANGUAGE.
UM, I THINK WE DO NEED TO REPLACE THESE STREETS AND ROADS, BUT THERE ARE PROCESSES IN THE COUNTY FOR WHICH WE CAN DO THAT.
WE COULD ALSO TAKE ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT AND SAVE, UH, THE CITY, UM, OF OAK GROVE MORE MONEY.
BUT, UM, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT AND EVALUATE, UH, AND I THINK WE NEED SOME MORE TIME FOR THIS.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD, BRIAN? THANK YOU.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HOLD THIS IN COMMITTEE.
UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE INTERGOVERNMENTAL
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WHEN WE'RE ADJOURNED? WE.