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THE TIME IS 3 0 1.WELCOME TO THE FIFTH REGULAR MEETING OF THE JACKSON COUNTY LEGISLATURE.
IT'S MONDAY, MARCH 2ND, AND WE ARE IN THE LEGISLATIVE AS CASEY LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY AREA.
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CALL.UM, UM, WE HAVE SEVEN PRESENT.
AND THEN DID, DID, UM, LEGISLATOR LAUER CONTACT YOU? UH, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE NOR LEGISLATOR MCGEE.
SHE SENT US AN A LEGISLATOR AT LAUER'S AID, SENT US AN EMAIL AND ASKED THAT SHE BE EXCUSED.
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UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JOURNAL? SO MOVE SECOND.UH, ANY OPPOSED? WELL, THE CLERK, OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, IT APPEARS, AYE HAVE IT AS DO INDEED.
UH, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ 2, 2 1 8 5.
DO WE WANNA DO THE P OH, I'M SORRY.
[2 THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
GUESS WE CAN DO THE PLEDGE.UH, LEGISLATOR SMITH, VICE CHAIR.
WILL YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? SURE.
TAKEN OFF THE REST I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE IN STUDENT FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE TO TESTIFY, I JUST WANT TO DO ONE, UM, COURTESY RESOLUTION FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UH, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ RESOLUTION
[A RESOLUTION honoring Ms. Gwendolyn Grant during Women’s History Month.]
2, 2 1 8 5, I BELIEVE HONORING MS. GWENDOLYN GRANT DURING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH INTRODUCED BY DONNA PEYTON.UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT? SO MOVED.
UH, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
PEYTON, WHERE'S THE MICROPHONE? YEAH, I, OH, IT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
IT IS SUCH A PRIVILEGE AND AN HONOR TO RECOGNIZE GWENDOLYN GRANT WHO SERVES AS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE URBAN LEAGUE OF GREATER KANSAS CITY, BECOMING THE FIRST WOMAN TO LEAD THE ORGANIZATION IN.
ITS MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEAR HISTORY.
AND MS. GRANT IS A NATIONALLY RESPECTED CIVIL CIVIC LEADER WHOSE COMMITMENT TO CIVIL RIGHTS, SOCIAL JUSTICE, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITY HAS STRENGTHENED THE URBAN LEAGUE'S ROLE AS A LEADING REGIONAL VOICE ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, EDUCATIONAL EQUITY, HEALTH DISPARITY, AND PO POLICY REFORM.
IT WAS DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC THAT MS. GRANT MOBILIZED PUBLIC, PRIVATE, AND PHILANTHROPIC PARTNERS TO MEET URGENT COMMUNITY NEEDS, EXPANDING FOOD ACCESS, DIGITAL CONNECTIVITY, AND SUPPORT FOR BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES.
AND MS. GRANT WILL HAVE THE URBAN LEAGUE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE EXPOSING HARMFUL POLICING PRACTICES WITHIN THE KANSAS CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PROMPTING A FORMAL REQUEST FOR US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PATTERNS AND PRACTICES INVESTIGATION.
MS. GRANDFIELD, A LANDMARK LAWSUIT, CHALLENGING MISSOURI'S MANDATE THAT KANSAS CITY FUND A STATE CONTROL POLICE DEPARTMENT ELEVATING NATIONAL ATTENTION TO THE CITY'S LACK OF LOCAL CONTROL.
AND HER LEADERSHIP HAS FURTHER AFFIRMED, WAS FURTHER AFFIRMED WHEN THE URBAN LEAGUE RECEIVED A $1 MILLION UNRESTRICTED GRANT GIFT FROM PHILANTHROPIST MCKENZIE SCOTT, ENABLING EXPANDED SERVICES AND ORGANIZATIONAL STABILITY.
MS. GRANT CONTINUES TO SHAPE PUBLIC SAFETY AND CIVIC REFORM THROUGH HER SERVICE WITH THE URBAN SUMMIT, SAVE KC, THE URBAN COUNCIL AND NATIONAL URBAN LEAGUE ADVISORY BODIES.
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HER TO BE A RESPECTED COLUMNIST FOR THE CALL.AND CIVIC REFORM HAPPENS WHEN SHE SPEAKS UP.
HER SERVICE IS TO THE COMMUNITY IS IMMEASURABLE, AND IT IS SUCH AN HONOR TO PRESENT HER WITH THIS RESOLUTION TODAY.
BE RESOLVED THAT THE COUNTY LEGISLATURE OF JACKSON COUNTY, MISSOURI HONORS AND COMMENDS GWENDOLYN GRANT FOR HER EXTRAORDINARY LEADERSHIP, UNWAVERING ADVOCACY AND TRANSFORMATIVE IMPACT ON THE GREATER KANSAS CITY AREA AND BEYOND.
THANK YOU LEGISLATOR PEYTON, AND TO ALL OF THE LEGISLATORS, UH, CHAIRMAN OF BARCA.
AND TO EVERYONE HERE, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS HONOR.
I'M TRULY BLESSED TO HAVE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE KANSAS CITY AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT THE URBAN LEAGUE WORKS TO SUPPORT, TO FIGHT FOR RACIAL EQUITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE.
I ACCEPT THIS HONOR ON BEHALF OF THE TALENTED TEAM THAT SUPPORTS THE WORK OF THE URBAN LEAGUE.
WE HAVE A STRONG AND TALENTED STAFF AND A HIGHLY COMMITTED BOARD AND ALL OF THE WOMEN AND OTHER CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS ON WHOSE SHOULDERS I STAND.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS HONOR.
I AM TRULY TOUCHED, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THAT I HAVE BEEN CALLED TO DO.
ACTUALLY, YOU MIGHT NEED IT FOR OVER THERE.
YOU NEED IT AGAIN? NO, THAT'S GOOD.
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INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING PROCESSES.UH, I'LL ASK MY STAFF IF YOU WOULD COME BACK TO GRAB THESE ONES.
IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, YOU MUST BE, UM, PRE-SIGN UP TO SPEAK.
UH, I BELIEVE, UH, MADAM CLERK, WE AT LEAST NEED, UH, CITY OF LOCATION OF WHERE YOU RESIDE.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED, UM, OUR CHIEF OF STAFF GEN MAN HERE IS GONNA CARRY OUT, UM, ANOTHER SIGNATURE BLOCK RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU WANT TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK, PLEASE DO SO.
UM, BEFORE WE GET TO THE END, WE WILL DO BOTH ORDINANCES ONE AT A TIME.
UM, AND DO ME A FAVOR AND TELL ME IF YOU'RE SPEAKING, UH, FOR OR AGAINST WHEN YOU COME UP.
UM, AND WE WILL TAKE IT IN THAT WAY.
IF YOU'LL JOIN US AND YOU GET TO SIT NEXT TO OUR WONDERFUL COUNTY EXECUTIVE HERE WHILE YOU SPEAK, MAKE SURE YOU PLEASE SPEAK IN, UH, SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ON AND READY TO GO SO THAT WE CAN, UH, HAVE THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING ONLINE, ALSO HEAR THE LEGISLATION OR LET HEAR YOUR TESTIMONY.
UH, SO AT THIS TIME, THE KIND OF LEGISLATURE WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE 60 50 PROHIBITING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM CONCEALING THEIR FACES OR BADGES DURING PERFORMANCE OF THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES AND ESTABLISHING PENALTIES AND EXEMPTIONS.
WE WILL ALSO THEN HEAR ON ORDINANCE 6 0 6 1 PROHIBITING ALL PERMITS AND ZONING APPROVALS FOR NON COUNTY OR MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OWNED DETENTION FACILITIES.
SO FIRST WE WILL START WITH 60 50.
WE HAVE BEFORE US, UM, MS. INGRID FLAGS POLLER, I'M SORRY, WHEN I BUTCHER YOUR NAMES.
SO, UH, INGRID, IF YOU'LL JOIN US, UM, QUESTION ON PROCESS.
UH, WE NEED TO HAVE THEM SWORN IN THAT, UM, I WAS ALSO GONNA ASK, ARE WE, UM, GONNA HEAR FROM SOMEBODY IN FAVOR OF AND THEN OPPOSED TO KIND OF GO BACK AND FORTH? UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA READ STRAIGHT DOWN THE LIST AND SPEAKING TO PROCESS.
IS THERE A TIME LIMIT? UM, YEAH.
WE'LL DO TWO MINUTE TIMES AND I'LL ASK THAT, UH, CLERK, IF YOU, ONE OF THE CLERK STAFF WILL EXECUTE A TIMER FOR US, PLEASE.
AND ARE WE GOING TO REQUEST THAT PEOPLE NOT BE REPETITIVE IF THE SAME TESTIMONIES ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED? UH, I'LL LET PEOPLE SAY WHAT THEY WANT FOR THEIR TWO MINUTES.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL, I'LL STICK TO THERE.
UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, CLERK'S OFFICE, YOU ALL GOOD WITH THE TIMER? TWO MINUTES.
UH, AND AGAIN, IF YOU WILL, WHEN YOU STAND UP TO JOIN US, UM, MADAM CLERK, CAN WE CALL THOSE WHO ARE GONNA TESTIFY AND SWEAR 'EM IN, I GUESS? OKAY.
SO THAT WE HAVE THAT OFFICIAL PROCESS AS WELL.
SO IF YOU PLAN TO TESTIFY TODAY ON ORDINANCE 60
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50 OR 60 61, PLEASE STAND UP AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.DO YOU SWEAR UNDER THE PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THE MATTER AND ISSUE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? SO HELP ME.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WELCOME UP INGRID FLAGS.
SORRY IF I'M MISPRONOUNCING THAT.
IS THERE AN INGRID? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO CHARLOTTE TURGEN.
SO 60 50 IS THE MASK, UH, ORDINANCE.
YOU WANTED ME TO TELL WHERE I'M FROM? YEAH, JUST TELL, YEAH.
IF YOU JOIN US HERE AT THE TESTIFYING WITNESSES SIDE AND TELL US AT LEAST WHERE, WHAT CITY YOU'RE, YOU RESIDE IN.
AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME? BEVERLY HARVEY.
I'M WITH INDIVISIBLE, UH, HERE IN KANSAS CITY.
AND PROBABLY IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU WHO I WAS, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW, RIGHT? YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHO PROVE THE POINT.
WE CAN'T EVEN, SPEAKING OF THE, I JUST WANTED TO PROVE A POINT THERE THAT WHEN PEOPLE WEAR A MASK, YOU CAN'T TELL WHO THEY ARE.
SO THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WEAR MASKS ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTING CRIMES WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED.
THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WEAR MASKS ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTING CRIMES WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED.
WHY DO THEY NOT WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED? BECAUSE THEY KNOW OR THEY ARE COMMITTING A CRIME.
TRUMP HAS CREATED AN ARMED GESTAPO.
HE'S DOING EXACTLY WHAT HITLER DID IN THE 1930S.
PICK AN ENEMY AND BLAME THEM FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG OR BAD.
AFTER WORLD WAR II, HITLER BEGAN TO BLAME THE JEWS FOR AFTER WORLD WAR I.
HITLER BEGAN TO BLAME THE JEWS FOR THE ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL PROBLEMS THAT OF THE DAY.
AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT TURNED OUT.
WE ALL KNOW THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS MAKE UP A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF THE POPULATION, AND EVEN A SMALLER NUMBER OF ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE CRIMINALS.
SO WE ALL KNOW THAT IS AN EXCUSE TO BLAME AND CREATE HATE.
HERE WE ARE DEBATING ON WHETHER A GESTAPO SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT WEAR A MASK.
WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IS WHY WE ARE EVEN ALLOWING ICE TRUMP'S GESTAPO INTO OUR CITIES.
WE'VE ALL SEEN THE HORROR OF WHAT ICE AGENTS BRING.
THEY MURDER PEOPLE, THEY BEAT PEOPLE UP, THEY MAIM THEM, THEY SPRAY PEPPER SPRAY THEM, THEY TEAR GAS THEM.
THEY HARASS AMERICAN CITIZENS.
THEY ILLEGALLY ENTER PEOPLE'S HOMES AND BUSINESSES, AND THEY KIDNAP CHILDREN AND THEIR PARENTS.
AND THEN MOST RECENTLY DROPPED OFF AN ELDERLY BLIND MAN AFTER HE WAS RELEASED FROM THEIR CUSTODY, CUSTODY, WHO WAS NOT AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT AT A LOCATION FAR FROM HIS HOME, LATE AT NIGHT, AT A LOCATION THAT WAS CLOSED, AND THEN LIED ABOUT IT LATER BECAUSE THE MAN WAS FOUND DEAD SOON AFTER BEING DROPPED OFF.
SO WHY SHOULD ICE AGENTS NOT WEAR MASKS? THE QUESTION SHOULD BE WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THE GESTAPO IN OUR CITY? LET'S BE REAL.
IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
TRUMP AND THE GESTAPO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT TRUMP ARE THE PROBLEM.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY FOX NEWS AND OTHERS.
THEY FEED LIES TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
HE LIES, HE CHEATS, HE STEALS.
HE IS A RACIST, A MISOGYNIST, A PEDOPHILE.
HE IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE MOST HORRIFIC HUMAN CAN BE.
WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS OF THIS NATION.
UNLESS YOU ARE NATIVE AMERICAN, YOU ARE A DESCENDANT OF AN IMMIGRANT MR. CHAIR.
IF THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOW ICE TRUMP'S GESTAPO TO WEAR MASKS, YOU ARE JUST AS EVIL AS HE IS.
I SHOULD BE BANNED FROM KANSAS CITY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
WE'LL, WELCOME UP CLAUDIA TOMAN.
CLAUDIA TOMAN, PLEASE AGAIN, LOOK OUT FOR THE TIMER SO WE CAN STOP YOU SO I DON'T HAVE TO REIGN EVERYONE IN, PLEASE.
ARE YOU STARTING IT? TELL ME WHEN TO START AS SOON AS YOU START OFF.
UM, WELL, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, ALL THE LIES THAT WE JUST HEARD BECAUSE WE WERE, WE SWORE TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
BUT IN FACT, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT CITY YOU'RE FROM? OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, MUCH OF WHAT, UH, THE, THE YOUNG LADY WHO JUST SPOKE WAS A LIE, ESPECIALLY WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
AND, AND I TAKE EXCEPTION TO IT.
BUT HERE, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE MASS.
AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS SHE SAID THAT WAS IN FACT CORRECT, IS THAT THE PE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTING CRIMES AND DON'T
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WANT ANYONE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE, ARE CRIMINALS.AND DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE SAW, UM, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, IF NOT THOUSANDS, COMMITTING CRIMES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND WEARING MASKS.
THEY WERE WEARING MASKS, SUPPOSEDLY BECAUSE THERE WAS A PANDEMIC.
BUT ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT BIOLOGY KNOWS THAT YOU DON'T GET A VIRUS FROM BEING OUTSIDE IN THE OPEN AIR IN, UH, A DISPERSED, UM, AREA.
YOU GET THAT WHEN YOU'RE, UH, IN, UH, SMALL AREAS WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE, UH, IN DENSELY POPULATED AREAS AND CLOSED ENVIRONMENTS.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE CREATED, PARTICULARLY DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WHEN, UM, OVER TWO, UH, OVER 25 MILLION PEOPLE WERE LED INTO THIS COUNTRY, AND IN FACT, ENCOURAGED TO COME INTO THIS COUNTRY AND SOMETIMES EVEN FLOWN INTO THIS COUNTRY AND AROUND THIS COUNTRY BY OUR GOVERNMENT, SUPPOSEDLY OUR GOVERNMENT, ALTHOUGH CLEARLY IT'S NOT.
UM, AND THEY WERE GIVEN ALL KINDS OF ADVANTAGES.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WAS DONE WAS THAT WE ADMITTED THE ENEMY INTO OUR HOMES.
AND IT IS, AND NOW THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION AND GET THE INVADING ARMY OUT.
THESE ARE MURDERERS, THESE ARE PEDOPHILES.
THESE ARE HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, MANY OF THEM HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE PEOPLE.
THEY ARE, ARE GANGS AND, UH, THEY RAPED AND MURDERED TIME.
OKAY, MARGARET, HOW, HOW THIS, OKAY.
HOW I LIVE IN MISSION, KANSAS.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK TODAY AS A RESIDENT OF THE GREATER KANSAS CITY METRO.
I'M SPEAKING TO ADVOCATE FOR BANNING FACE MASKS ON ICE AGENTS AND ANYONE WHO ENFORCES LAWS.
NO ONE, EVEN CRIMINALS, WHO, BY THE WAY, ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, SHOULD BE CONFRONTED AND DETAINED BY SOMEONE WEARING MILITARY GEAR, CARRYING A GUN, AND WEARING FACE COVERING.
HOW ARE WE TO KNOW ANY OF US IF WE'RE BEING LAWFULLY DETAINED, IF THEY CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED? IS THIS A KIDNAPPER, A LAW OFFICER, SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE VOTE TO REQUIRE ICE AGENTS TO BEAR THEIR FACES, WEAR IDENTIFICATION, AND CLEARLY DEFINE WHO THEY ARE AND WHO THEY REPRESENT.
I I WANNA REIGN THAT IN AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THINGS MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UH, DENNIS ROLAND, GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M A RESIDENT OF JACKSON COUNTY IN SPECIFICALLY KANSAS CITY, AND IN PARTICULAR ON ADDRESSING 6 0 5 OH, I, UM, I LIKE TO OFFER A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
UH, I DO SUPPORT THE, UH, UH, INTENTION OF, UH, BANNING MASK IN, UH, AS THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES THAT, UH, DURING, UH, UH, PERFORMANCE OF THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT THE ORDINANCE IS PROBLEMATIC, AT LEAST AS DRAFTED, UM, WHILE I SUPPORT THE PREMISES AND GOALS.
UH, THE, UH, UM, THERE'S NO LANGUAGE CONTAINED IN EITHER PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN EITHER IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF THAT, UH, IS, UH, WHERE WILL IT BE CODIFIED, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND THESE ARE MINOR ISSUES, AND WHAT CODE NUMBER WILL IT BE, UH, ISSUED? AND IN 6 0 5 OH, UH, HAS NO LANGUAGE WHICH PROVIDES FOR ANY FINANCIAL PENAL PUNISHMENT FOR, UH, THE ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THE PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE PUNISHMENT, BUT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE IT.
THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE, UH, THERE'S NO EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE, UH, SECOND, WHEREAS THE PURPOSE, UH, OF CONCEALING IDENTITIES, UNLESS A VALID EXEMPTION APPLIES, THERE'S BASICALLY NO DEFINITION OF A VALID EXEMPTION OTHER THAN WHAT YOU PUT IN THE ORDINANCE.
UH, THE, UH, EXEMPTIONS THAT YOU'VE, UH, APPLIED SEEM TO BE LIMITING.
SO I BELIEVE IT SHOULD, UH, CONTAIN LANGUAGE, WHICH, UH, INCLUDES OTHER POTENTIAL,
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UH, INCIDENTS.AND THE OTHER SECTION WHERE IT SAYS WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION, I BELIEVE IS ALSO PROBLEMATIC TIME.
UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE ORDINANCE HASN'T BEEN SIGNED BY THE COUNTY COUNSELOR.
IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE UP FOR CONSIDERATION, BUT I DO.
I DO SUPPORT THE PREMISE KENDA TO MCCLAIN.
SORRY IF I'M MISSING THE MISPRONOUNCING NAMES HERE.
BEAUTIFUL JOB FOR THE RECORD, IT'S KEN TOMS MCCLAIN.
AND I AM OPPOSED TO THIS ORDINANCE, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT CITY, SORRY, TYLER CITY, UH, KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI JACKSON, JACKSON COUNTY.
UH, THIS ORDINANCE IS FLAWED IN MANY RESPECTS, BUT PREDOMINANTLY LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE ALLOWED TO WEAR MASKS WHEN, IF THERE ARE GAS ATTACKS, IF THERE ARE OTHER REASONS.
AND THESE ICE OFFICERS ARE SIMPLY DOING A JOB.
THESE ICE, THESE, UH, FEDERAL LAWS THAT THEY'RE ENFORCING HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE MANY YEARS, INCLUDING UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA.
AND THEY WERE USED BY HIM, PRESIDENT BIDEN, MANY OTHERS.
AND THEREFORE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE ANTI-AGE ICE PROTESTORS ARE USING, IF THEY SEE THE FACE OR IF THEY SEE THEIR BADGE NUMBER, THEY ARE DOXING.
THESE PEOPLE, THEY ARE NOT ONLY ATTACKING THE ICE OFFICERS THEMSELVES, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO THEIR HOMES AND CAUSING DISRUPTION, AND THEY'RE GOING INTO THEIR CHILDREN'S SCHOOLS AND CAUSING DISRUPTION.
SO IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS JOB WHEN THEY ARE SIMPLY ENFORCING FEDERAL LAW, WHICH AGAIN, HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.
THIS IS NOT THE GESTAPO, THIS IS A LAW EN A VALID LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY.
THESE PEOPLE ARE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.
THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN A HEARING.
THERE'S SO THAT ALL OF THAT IS NOT DISPUTED.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE, THE ICE AGENTS HAVE A LAWFUL REASON TO BE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE FEARING FOR THEIR LIVES FROM ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SITUATION.
SO I WOULD STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THIS.
THIS IS A VERY DESTRUCTIVE THING.
WE DO NOT WANT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE UNDER ATTACK BY EVERYDAY CITIZENS AND PEOPLE RUNNING INTO THEIR COMMUNITY, NEAR THEIR HOMES AND HARASSING THEM.
THAT IS TOTALLY UNFAIR AND BAD.
I'M A, UH, I'M A RESIDENT, LONG-TERM RESIDENT OF KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
I'M A RETIRED CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST, AND I'M IN FAVOR, I'M IN FAVOR OF BANNING THE WEARING OF MASKS IN JACKSON COUNTY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON.
ON THE ONE HAND, THE MASK OFFICERS ARE MORE ANONYMOUS, WHICH CAN LEAD TO LESS ACCOUNTABILITY AND THEREFORE GREATER AGGRESSION.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THE PEOPLE MAY FEEL MORE DEHUMANIZED DUE TO THE MASKING, WHICH ALSO CAN LEAD TO GREATER AGGRESSIVENESS IN RESPONSE.
IN SUMMARY, IN MY OPINION, MASKING OF OFFICERS IS LIKELY RELATED TO GREATER CHANCE OF VIOLENCE, WHEREAS NO MASKS IS LIKELY RELATED TO GREATER SAFETY FOR OFFICERS AND THE PEOPLE.
I'M PATRICIA PARKS, A RETIRED TEACHER FROM BLUE SPRINGS.
AND I WAS JUST COMING AND I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK, BUT THEN I THOUGHT, IF I'M JUST SITTING THERE, YOU WON'T KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING.
SO HERE I AM WITH NOTHING WRITTEN DOWN AND I WON'T USE TWO MINUTES.
EVERYONE SIGNED UP TO DO THAT.
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I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THE MASK FOR THE REASONS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID HERE, AND I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH 'EM AGAIN.BUT I THINK IT'S VERY UN-AMERICAN FOR THEM TO HAVE THESE MASKS AND HIDING THEIR IDENTITY.
AND BESIDES THAT, THEY'RE POORLY TRAINED.
I WILL ADD THAT, THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY.
I LIVE IN BLUE SPRINGS, LIKE PATRICIA.
I ALSO DIDN'T COME PREPARED TO SPEAK.
UM, HOWEVER, I HAVE BEEN READING, AND THERE IS A LOT OF SPEAKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN'T MAKE A LAW IN JACKSON COUNTY THAT SUPERSEDES WHAT IS FEDERAL LAW AND THE DOXING SITUATION.
AND IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, EVEN IF THE LEGISLATURE WOULD PASS A RESOLUTION TO FORBID MASKS, WHICH I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, OF THE PEOPLE OF ICE IN JACKSON COUNTY, I THINK IT'S A SYMBOLIC THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND THE MORE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES THAT DO THAT SYMBOL SYMBOLISM WILL MAKE AN EFFECT AT A NATIONWIDE LEVEL.
AND ALL OF YOU GENTLEMEN, LADIES SITTING HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE, YOU ALL, NONE OF YOU HAVE ON MASKS.
YOU'RE ALL CAPABLE OF BEING DOXED.
YOU'RE ALL CAPABLE OF HAVING SOMEBODY COME TO YOUR HOUSE TO DO ALL THESE THINGS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.
BUT YOU'RE HERE WITHOUT MASKS.
SO WHY CAN'T THE PEOPLE THAT WE AS TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING TO DO THE JOB OF, AND I'M NOT AGAINST ENFORCEMENT, I'M JUST NOT FOR THIS TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT.
SO I'M HOPING YOU ALL WILL STAND UP AND DO, IF NOTHING ELSE SYMBOLICALLY SAY, JACKSON COUNTY IS AGAINST MASKED MEN IN OUR COUNTY.
DAVID BROCK, URMAN, SORRY ABOUT YOUR NAME.
I'M, UM, HERE IN KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
UM, THANKS FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UM, YEAH, IT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO VERY FAR TO SEE, TO FIND EVIDENCE OF WHAT A GROUP OF MASKED INDIVIDUALS, THE EFFECT THAT THAT HAS ON A, ON PEOPLE IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE PRIMARY PURPOSES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IS TO DEESCALATE SITUATIONS.
AND IT SEEMS THAT COMING ON A SCENE, TAKE ASIDE, I MEAN, SETTING ASIDE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES OR SITUATIONS IN WHICH, UM, CLEARLY IT MIGHT BE NECESSARY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO USE MASKS.
UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE GENERAL, THESE LARGE GATHERINGS WHERE, UM, IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S A DEFAULT STARTING AT AN ESCALATED POINT.
AND THAT TENSION, I MEAN, WE SEE, WE SEE THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN AND THIS, UM, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO STAND UP AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY AND PREVENT BLOODSHED AND VIOLENCE IN OUR CITIES THAT MIGHT BE IN OUR CITY, THAT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY BEEN AVOIDED BY, BY A DEESCALATED STATE.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK IT TAKES A LOT OF COMMON SENSE TO SEE THAT.
AND I WOULD ECHO OUR MAYOR'S, UM, SENTIMENTS ON THE DETENTION CENTER.
I DON'T THINK WE WANNA BE IN THE BUSINESS OF STORING AND SHIPPING HUMAN BEINGS TIME, ESPECIALLY IN TERRIBLE SITUATIONS.
UM, MY NAME IS SARAH FARN AND I LIVE IN KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
UM, I ALSO AM A COLLEGE STUDENT.
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UM, I WANNA START OFF BY POINTING OUT HOW INSANE IT IS THAT WE EVEN HAVE TO BE HERE TODAY TO TRY TO DO ANYTHING IN OUR POWER TO PREVENT MASS INDIVIDUALS, UM, IN OUR, FROM TERRORIZING OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS.MANY TIMES MAY I ADD WITHOUT A WARRANT, IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES.
UM, WHEN DID IT BECOME OKAY TO KIDNAP PEOPLE WITHOUT A WARRANT? IF YOU'RE DENYING WHAT IS HAPPENING AND CAN'T REALIZE THAT THIS IS FASCISM, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL.
UM, THE REAL CRIMINALS, PEDOPHILES, AND RAPISTS ARE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
UM, WE MUST DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER, UM, TO RESIST WHAT IS HAPPENING AND THE DISMANTLING OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
SO I SUPPORT BANNING MASKS FOR ICE AGENTS.
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DESTROYING THE COUNTRY, AND WE MUST DO ANYTHING IN OUR POWER TO SHOW THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING IS NOT OKAY.
EVEN WITH ORDINANCES LIKE THIS.
UM, EVEN SMALL THINGS ARE MAKING A POINT AGAINST FASCISM.
UM, THIS IS WHY I SUPPORT BANNING, UM, MASKS.
UM, WE MUST SUPPORT THE DEM MASKING TO SHOW OUR HUMANITY AND OUR EMPATHY FOR LIVING, BREATHING HUMAN BEINGS.
THIS IS BEYOND POLITICAL, OKAY? SO ANY SMALL THING WE CAN DO TO STAND UP AND SAY, HEY, THIS ISN'T OKAY, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL IMMIGRANTS OF THIS NATION.
IF YOU'RE WHITE, YOU WEREN'T BORN HERE ORIGINALLY.
YOU COME FROM EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALIZE THAT.
ANTOINE JENNINGS FROM BLUE SPRINGS, MISSOURI.
WHAT ABOUT BIDEN? THIS IS NOT ABOUT BIDEN.
THIS IS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN 2026.
YES, PRESIDENT BIDEN IS RETIRED.
HE'S IN DELAWARE DOING HIS THING.
THIS IS ABOUT THIS LEGISLATURE.
AND THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS NOT SITTING IN HERE LISTENING TO THESE IS BECAUSE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SHOULD BE IN HERE THE END OF THE DAY.
WHETHER NOT YOU VOTE ON, HE HAS TO SIGN IT, WHERE IS HE? IT'S TRAVESTY.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S SITTING UP ON THERE, YOU ALL VOTED INTO OFFICE, REPRESENT PEOPLE.
WHETHER OR NOT THIS PASSES SOME COURT IS IMMATERIAL.
THE SIMPLE FACT OF YOU PASSING THIS ORDINANCE, IT'S GONNA SHOW THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR YOU THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THEM.
MAY I REMIND YOU, WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, A A MORE PERFECT UNION, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU UP THERE WERE, WAS ELECTED FOR A REASON.
MY EXPECTATION FROM MY LEGISLATURE, FROM MY LEGISLATOR WHO WAS NOT HERE, IS THAT THEY WOULD VOTE FOR BECAUSE WE THE PEOPLE, IT, I DON'T SEE, UH, KANSAS CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, INDEPENDENT POLICE DEPARTMENT, BLUE SPRINGS POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T SEE THEM WEARING MASKS.
DON'T ACT LIKE YOU CARE ABOUT CHILDREN AND ABOUT SAFETY.
WHEN WE HAVE LEGISLATORS GETTING KILLED AND MURDERED AT THEIR HOMES, DON'T ACT LIKE YOU CARE.
WHAT ABOUT HUMANITY? THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT DOCUMENTED UNDOCUMENTED.
WE ROLLED THROUGH TWO INDIVIDUALS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF THEY ARE HERE AND THEY DID WANNA SPEAK, THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
INGRID FLA POLLER, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A VIDEO OF THIS PROCEEDING OUT HERE, SO I WAS ABLE TO WATCH EVERYTHING.
I'M WATCHING EVERYBODY'S TESTIMONY, SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, BUT I NEED TO SEE YOU.
CHARLOTTE TURIN, JUST MAKING SURE.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF 50 60? OKAY.
UM, AND THEN JUST TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY, UM, AS YOU, UH, YOU ALL, I THINK WERE HERE WHEN YOU, WHEN EVERYONE WAS SWORN IN, CORRECT? EVERYONE WAS SWORN IN.
IS KIND MY GUESS IN THE ORDER THAT YOU'VE STOOD UP THERE, PLEASE.
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ALL RIGHT.SO JUST TELL US YOUR NAME, THE CITY, AND THEN GO FOR IT FOR YOU.
I LIVE IN KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
I WOULD LIKE TO READ A FEW STATEMENTS FROM A RECENT COURT, UM, SETTLEMENT BY, SORRY.
THE FOUNDERS RECOGNIZE THAT FREEDOM IS IMPERILED NOT ONLY WHEN GOVERNMENT ACTIONS LACK LEGAL JUSTIFICATION, BUT ALSO WHEN THOSE ACTIONS ARE CARRIED OUT BY AGENTS WHOSE AUTHORITY IS UNCHECKED AND WHOSE ACTIONS CANNOT BE TRACED.
WHEN OFFICERS CAN WEAR A MASK, FAIL TO VERIFY THEIR CREDENTIALS, REFUSE TO DISCLOSE THEIR NAMES, ARRIVE IN UNMARKED VEHICLE AND NEGLECT TO PROVIDE A JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR SEIZURE OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION THAT THE FRAMERS ENVISIONED HAS NOT JUST BEEN CORRODED, IT HAS BEEN EVISCERATED.
WHEN OFFICERS CAN CONCEAL THEIR IDENTITY, THE SYSTEM EFFECTIVELY COLLAPSES.
INDIVIDUALS LACK THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO REPORT MISCONDUCT FOR MEANINGFUL JUDICIAL REVIEW OR INTERNAL INVESTIGATION.
OFFICERS ARE THEREBY EMBOLDENED TO EXERCISE THEIR POWER IN AN ARBITRARY AND OPPRESSIVE MANNER, AND PUBLIC TRUST IS DECIMATED.
THEN HE ADDRESSES IMPOSTERS, WHO COULD JUST RANDOMLY PICK PEOPLE UP OFF THE STREET.
IT HIDES THE FACE OF THE OFFICER WEARING IT ON A PUBLIC HIGHWAY, AND A CIVIL ARREST OF A PERSON SUSPECTED OF NO CRIME.
THE ONLY PURPOSE SERVED BY HIDING THE OFFICER'S FACE IS TO PREVENT HIS IDENTIFICATION AND PREVENTING IDENTIFICATION SERVES ONLY TO ELIMINATE ACCOUNTABILITY.
A LAW ENFORCEMENT PRACTICE WHOSE SOLE OPERATIONAL EFFECT IS THE ELIMINATION OF ACCOUNTABILITY IS NOT A SAFETY MEASURE.
IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL DEFICIENCY WEARING THE NAME OF ONE, AND IT GOES ON AND ON.
AND FORGIVE ME IF THIS IS NOT IN THE RIGHT ORDER HERE.
SO IS ASHLEY MORGAN NEXT, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR OH, ASHLEY MORGAN LEE SUMMIT MISSOURI.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I'M HERE TO STATE MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE JACKSON COUNTY MASK BAN.
MY POSITION IS INFORMED BOTH AS, UH, BY MY WORK AS AN ATTORNEY, AND BY MY LIVED EXPERIENCE AS A WOMAN.
I UNDERSTAND PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY HOW CRITICALLY CRITICAL, UH, VISIBILITY AND IDENTIFIABILITY ARE TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
WHEN INDIVIDUALS FULLY CONCEAL THEIR FACES IN PUBLIC, IT HEIGHTENS THE VULNERABILITY THAT WOMEN ALREADY NAVIGATE EVERY DAY.
IT IS ESSENTIAL TO REMEMBER THAT BEING UNMASKED HAS LONG BEEN THE STANDARD ON EXPECTED AND PUBLIC LIFE.
FOR MANY YEARS, EVEN ICE OFFICERS CONDUCTED PUBLIC OPERATIONS WITHOUT COVERING THEIR FACES.
THE RECENT MOVE AWAY FROM THAT TRANSPARENCY IS A SHARP BREAK FROM ESTABLISHED PRACTICE AND HAS CREATED REAL RISKS.
WE ARE NOW SEEING INDIVIDUALS IN THIS AREA ATTEMPT TO IMPERSONATE LAW ENFORCEMENT, INCLUDING FEDERAL AGENTS TO INTIMIDATE HARM AND ABDUCT WOMEN.
WHEN FACES ARE HIDDEN, THE PUBLIC HAS NO RELIABLE WAY TO DISTINGUISH LEGITIMATE AUTHORITY FROM THOSE WHO INTEND TO EXPLOIT IT.
I DO NOT SUPPORT THEM BEING MASKED.
THIS IS NOT A THEORETICAL CONCERN.
IT IS A DIRECT THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO OBSCURE THEIR IDENTITY WITHOUT CAUSE.
UNDERMINES ACCOUNTABILITY, INVITES ABUSE AND CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR BAD ACTORS TO OPERATE WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE.
WOMEN IN PARTICULAR BEAR THE BRUNT OF THAT DANGER.
THE PROPOSED MASS BAN DOES NOT IMPOSE A NEW BO BURDEN.
IT RESTORES A LONGSTANDING NORM, ONE THAT SUPPORTS SAFETY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND TRUST IN OUR PUBLIC SHARED SPACES.
VISIBLE IDENTIFIABLE PRESENCE IS A BASIC EXPECTATION IN ANY COMMUNITY THAT VALUES ORDER AND PUBLIC CONFIDENCE.
FOR THESE REASONS, I STRONGLY URGE YOU FIRMLY AND WITHOUT MY RESERVATION TO SUPPORT THE MASK, BAN AND UPHOLD THE PRINCIPLES OF TRANSPARENCY AND SAFETY THAT OUR COMMUNITIES DEPEND ON.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS BOARD, THANK YOU FOR, UH, UH,
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ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.PAUL SALVI, SOUTH KANSAS CITY, A RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE BAND MEASURE.
UH, THE REASON I RISE IN OPPOSITION.
WHY ARE THEY WEARING MASKS? WELL, THEY'RE UNDER A FORCE PROTECTION MEASURE.
THEY'RE UNDER CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER FROM INSURGENTS DALLAS SNIPER ATTACK ON 'EM.
THEY'RE USING VEHICLE RAMMING ON THESE AGENTS, ON THESE POLICE OFFICERS.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE WEARING MASKS.
SECONDLY, IN THE ARMY, WHEN WE STAFF AN ACTION AND REGULATION, THAT STAFFING ACTION HAS TO GO THROUGH A CONCURRENCE, NON CONCURRENCE.
MY QUESTION IS, HAS THIS ORDINANCE BEEN THROUGH THE JTTF, THE US ATTORNEY FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF MISSOURI, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE CHIEF OF POLICE AT THE KANSAS CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, US MARSHALS AND SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE OF THE FBI, BECAUSE THOSE COALITION FORCES HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THIS ORDINANCE MEANS.
SECONDLY, WHAT'S THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT? IF A DEPUTY FROM SHERIFF FORTE COMES UP ON A, UH, UH, FEDERAL POLICE OFFICER IN THE MIDDLE OF A MISSION, IS HE GONNA USE DEADLY FORCE? THEY'RE BOTH ARMED, HIGHLY TRAINED, UH, QUALITY WEAPON SYSTEMS. I KNOW YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, BUT I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN OVERSEAS.
WHEN COALITION FORCES HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT, WILL THIS TURN A COALITION FORCE OF, UH, COOPERATION BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT INTO ADVERSARIAL, UH, CONDITION? AND THEN FINALLY, I WOULD JUST CLOSE WITH, UM, IF YOU GUYS PASS THIS, UH, BOTH THESE ORDINANCES, WILL YOU GO ON RECORD TO GUARANTEE THAT ANY AMERICAN CITIZEN, WHETHER THEY LIVE IN JACKSON COUNTY OR VISIT, WILL NOT BE HARMED OR KILLED BY AN ILLEGAL CRIMINAL ALIEN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, DEBORAH PAR, SORRY TO HAVE YOU GO UP AND DOWN.
MY NAME IS DEBORAH PAR AND I LIVE IN KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
AND IF I WAS APPROACHED BY THESE PEOPLE IN TOTALLY BLACK OUTFITS MASKED WITH NO IDENTIFICATION, I WOULD THINK I WAS BEING KIDNAPPED.
AND I WOULD EITHER TRY TO FIGHT OR RUN.
AND THIS HAS HAPPENED TO MANY OF THE PEOPLE.
ICE IS NOTHING BUT TRUMP'S PRIVATE ARMY, AND THEY ARE LIKE THE BROWN SHIRTS OF HITLER.
BUT HITLER'S BROWN SHIRTS DID NOT WEAR MASKS, AND THEY WORE IN UNIFORM.
AND THE PEOPLE, THEY ARE ARRESTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
IT'S A MIST OF BEING TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY, NOT A FELONY.
AND MANY OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE LIVED HERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND THEY HAVE PAID TAXES.
THEY HAVE PAID SOCIAL SECURITY, WHICH THEY WILL NEVER GET BACK, BUT THEY ARE KEEPING SOCIAL SECURITY TO BE FUNCTIONAL.
I TOTALLY SUPPORT BANNING MASKS.
I LIVE IN PLEASANT HILL, AND I'M, I'M HERE BECAUSE I, THE IDEA OF MASKED MEN IS PETRIFYING.
I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT NEEDING TO CARRY OR BE ARMED UNTIL I STARTED SEEING OUR GOVERNMENT RUNNING AROUND FULLY MASKED WHERE, LIKE, HOW BEVERLY FIRST INTRODUCED YOU DID NOT, YOU COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING OF HER.
THE IDEA, I WAS JUST SEEING, THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE PEOPLE RECORDING BECAUSE WE GET TO ACTUALLY CONTROL THE NARRATIVE WHEN WE ARE RECORDING AND WE'VE WATCHED PLENTY OF PEOPLE GETTING KIDNAPPED, NO IDENTIFYING INFORMATION, AND THEY GO INTO A CAR AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL NOT BEING LOCATED.
THAT THE IDEA OF BEING SNATCHED BY AN A MASKED GROUP OF PEOPLE IS PETRIFYING AND DOES NOT MAKE US SAFE.
IT, IT LITERALLY MAKES ME WANT TO BE ARMED.
JUST THE IDEA OF OUR GOVERNMENT JUST BEING ABLE TO SNATCH PEOPLE UP WITH NO RHYME OR REASON AND JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TRUMP OR WHATEVER, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S SO UN-AMERICAN.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY UN-AMERICAN TO, UH, JUST KEEP US FEARFUL OF OUR OWN GOVERNMENT.
I DON'T, I DON'T FEAR THE IMMIGRANTS.
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I FEAR MY GOVERNMENT.THAT'S WHO I FEAR IS MY GOVERNMENT.
YOU KNOW, IF I COULD GET MY PASSPORT AND GO TO A COUNTRY THAT ACTUALLY GIVES US RIGHTS, THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS AT US AS HUMAN BEINGS INSTEAD OF CARING MORE ABOUT WHAT BILLIONAIRES CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
I'D LIKE TO SEE AMERICA BE GREAT AGAIN, BUT AIN'T GONNA BE, WELL WE GOT TRUMP.
BENJAMIN ROSLER DID YOU SAY BENJAMIN? YEP.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITIZENS.
I LIVE IN THE HISTORIC NORTHEAST KANSAS CITY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED PENDLETON HEIGHTS.
THERE'S A REASON THAT THESE HEARINGS ARE HELD IN PUBLIC BECAUSE THE BUSINESS OF GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN THE SUNLIGHT.
UH, AND IT'S FOR THAT REASON THAT WE'RE ASKING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.
AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, WHERE EVERYONE, WHEREVER ANYONE STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION, PROFESSIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO WORK FOR A LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT AGENCY IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.
PIRATES CONCEAL THEIR IDENTITIES, THIEVES KIDNAPPERS, CONCEAL THEIR IDENTITIES.
PROFESSIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WEAR BADGES AND THEY PROVIDE IDENTIFICATION THAT HAS AN IDENTIFYING NUMBER AND THEIR FACE AND THE NAME OF THE AGENCY THEY WORK FOR.
AND THEY ALSO COME WITH THINGS LIKE JUDICIAL WARRANTS SIGNED BY JUDGES.
THIS IS A MATTER OF HOW LAW FUNCTIONS AND HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.
NOW, OF COURSE, ANYONE CAN UNDERSTAND WHY AN OFFICER MIGHT SAY ON A MOTORCYCLE, CHOOSE TO WEAR SOMETHING TO PROTECT THEIR FACE FROM THE WIND IN THE COLD, AS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP.
AND WE ALL KNOW VERY WELL THAT THE BRAVE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO WERE LAW ENFORCEMENT DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC WERE ESPECIALLY AT RISK TO EXPOSURE.
AND SO, OF COURSE, ONE WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY THEY MIGHT WANNA WEAR SOME KIND OF PROTECTIVE DEVICE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM CATCHING OR TRANSMITTING PATHOGENS, BUT SURELY WE CAN COME TO A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AT ALL ON THE MATTER OF THE DETENTION FACILITY.
IT'S INCREDIBLY INAPPROPRIATE TO TRY TO TAKE A BUILDING.
MS. ROSLER, SORRY, I HAVE TO INTERRUPT YOU ON THAT ONE.
WE HAVE TO DO THAT ONE SEPARATELY.
JASON, THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION.
I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL.
TIME, UH, LOOKS LIKE DEBORAH HAYES IS OUR LAST ONE FOR, UM, THE MASK ORDINANCE 60 50.
I'M HAYES AND I LIVE IN KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
UM, FIRST I THINK MAYBE I HAVEN'T READ IT, CLARIFIED IT ENOUGH, BUT DOES THIS INCLUDE LOCAL, COUNTY AND STATE AND FEDERAL POLICE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? OR ARE WE JUST FOCUSING ON ICE? OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI? UH, I'M A, THAT'S A, I CAN'T ANSWER UNFORTUNATELY, A LITTLE CONFUS THEN I HAVE A STATEMENT.
SO CAN CAN ANYBODY CLARIFY THAT? WE WILL, BUT IT HAS BE LATER.
UM, I LIVE IN THE WEST SIDE, WHICH IS ALONG SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD AND WE HAVE A VERY, UM, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS AND WE HAVE A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY POLICE, TWO POLICEMEN, CHACO AND JOHN, WHO COME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.
AND THE LAST TIME THEY CAME, THEY EXPLAINED TO US THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS WORKED WITH ICE IN A VERY WELL RUNWAY WHERE THEY HAVE THE WARRANTS, THEY DON'T WEAR A MASK, AND, AND THEY TAKE CARE OF WHAT, IF ANYBODY IS BREAKING THE LAW, THEY WILL GO.
THEY DON'T CRASH INTO THE DOORS OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY, IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT WE HAVE HAD ICE OFFICERS COME IN AND WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE TAKE IT, THEY HAVEN'T WORN MASKS, THEY'VE PLAYED BY THE RULES, THEY FOLLOWED ALL THE LAWS, AND SO IT'S WORKED.
AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, THE WEST SIDE IS MADE UP OF MOSTLY HISPANIC PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T THINK, UM, IF THERE WAS, WHAT IS GOING ON NOW, IF THAT WAS WHAT WAS HAPPENING, NO ONE WOULD WANT THAT AT ALL.
BUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDERSTAND IF PEOPLE HAVE REALLY COMMITTED CRIMES, CRIMINAL
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CRIMES AND HAVING A WARRANT, THEN YES.BUT, UM, I GUESS I'M JUST SAYING I FEEL FOR THE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY MADE IT HARD FOR THEM TO DO THEIR JOB.
I JUST, UM, I'M SUPPORTING THE BAN ON THE MASK.
ALRIGHT, SO AT THIS POINT, UH, WE HAVE NO MORE, UH, FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY ON, ON ORDINANCE 60 50.
UM, JUST AS A POINT OF UNDERSTANDING, FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING AND LISTENING, UH, WE WILL TAKE UP THE LEGISLATION AND TAKE UP ACTIONS WITHIN THAT.
WE'LL HELP DEFINE FOR SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED OF US, UH, WITHIN THAT DISCUSSION, UH, AS WELL AS HEAR FROM GENERAL COUNSEL, ANYONE ELSE, UH, IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP.
SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, ASK THEM, BUT WE CAN'T AN WE CAN'T ANSWER THEM IN THAT MOMENT OF YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ORDINANCE 6 0 6, 1 OF THE MORATORIUM FOR, UH, ICE DETENTION FACILITIES.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, SORRY, I FORGOT.
UH, CHARLOTTE TURGEN? NO, CHARLOTTE.
HELLO AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, LETTING EVERYBODY TALK TODAY.
I, UH, LIVE IN INDEPENDENCE, AND I AM THE FOUNDER OF INDIVISIBLE, KANSAS CITY.
SO DETENTION CENTERS THE YEAR 2026, AND HERE WE ARE DISCUSSING DETENTION CENTERS, CONCENTRATION CAMPS, REALLY, UH, THESE ARE NOT DETENTION CENTERS.
WE ALL SEE WHAT ICE AGENTS DO IN PUBLIC.
IT MAKES ME SICK TO THINK OF WHAT THEY DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, STARVE PEOPLE, RAPE WOMEN, BEAT PEOPLE, PROBABLY KILL PEOPLE.
NO ONE KNOWS, AS WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY DO.
AND THE QUESTION IS, IF TRUMP WANTS TO DEPORT PEOPLE, WHY DOES HE NEED HUNDREDS OF CONCENTRATION CAMPS THAT WILL HOLD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE? DON'T YOU FIND IT ODD THAT HE SAYS HE WANTS TO DEPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, BUT INSTEAD HE'S ACTUALLY BUILDING CONCENTRATION CAMPS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HOLD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE? THIS DOES NOT PASS THE SMELL TEST.
AGAIN, HIS GOAL IS TO RID AMERICAN AMERICA CRIMINALS AND DRUGS.
HIS GOAL IS TO INSTILL FEAR IN AMERICANS, TO DIVIDE AMERICA, TO HAVE A GESTAPO THAT CAN KEEP PEOPLE FROM VOTING JUST LIKE HITLER DID.
ONCE HE PUTS UP THIS CONCENTRATION CAP, WHAT COMES NEXT? CREMATORIUMS WE SEE EVERY DAY ON TV AND OUR, AND OUR PHONES THAT ANYONE WHO GOES AGAINST HIM OR SAYS ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT HIM, HE GOES AFTER THEM.
WE AS MIDWESTERNERS KNOW FOR OUR HARD WORK AND OUR UPSTANDING VALUES, HAVING CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN MISSOURI, KANSAS, OR ANYWHERE IN AMERICA, GOES AGAINST EVERY FIBER OF AMERICANS.
MILLIONS OF WOMEN AND MEN HAVE SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES AND LIVES TO PROTECT THIS GREAT NATION.
AND YET, TRUMP WANTS TO DEFILE AMERICA WITH HIS HATRED, HIS GUSTAPO, HIS CONCENTRATION CAMPS, AND HIS WARS IN IRAN.
IF WE FOLLOW TRUMP TO HAVE A CONCENTRATION CAMP HERE IN KANSAS CITY OR MISSOURI, OR ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES, THEN WE DO NOT DESERVE TO BE CALLED AMERICAN.
STARTED A WAR, ANOTHER BIG DISTRACTION FROM THE EPSTEIN FILES.
THE AMERICANS WILL DIE, THOUSANDS OF OTHERS WILL DIE FOR WHAT HIS EGO, HIS DESIRE TO WAR.
AND BUILDING A CONCENTRATION CAMP IN KANSAS CITY WOULD BE DISASTROUS.
I BEG YOU TO STOP TO NOT ALLOW THE HATRED TO CONTINUE.
I'M AGAINST THE BAN ON MASS AND I AM FOR THE DETENTION CENTER.
CAN WE START AGAIN? START YOUR, YEAH, WE'LL START YOUR TIME OVER.
I AM AGAINST THE BAN ON THE MASKS FOR ICE, SPECIFICALLY FOR ICE, AND I AM FOR THE DETENTION CENTER.
AND FURTHERMORE, I AM OFFENDED DEEPLY, DEEPLY OFFENDED THAT ANYONE SHOULD CONSIDER THE CURRENT, UH, FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION AND THE FORCES THAT WORK FOR THEM TO BE GESTAPO, TO BE HITLER LIKED TO BE, AND FOR DONALD TRUMP TO BE CONSIDERED HITLER.
I AM OFFENDED BECAUSE I HAD FAMILY THAT WE WERE, THAT WERE LOST IN GERMANY IN DURING WORLD WAR II.
I AM OF A JEWISH BACKGROUND ON BOTH SIDES OF MY FAMILY, AND I LOST FAMILY DURING THAT AND
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DURING THE PILGRIMS IN RUSSIA, UM, WE NEED THE, THE DETENTION FACILITY BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE IN KANSAS CITY WHO, UM, AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS WHO, UH, THEY, THEY HIDE AND THEY SUPPORT AND THEY PROMOTE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.AND THEY, THEY SUPPORT AND PROMOTE THE LIVES OF FOREIGNERS OVER AMERICAN CITIZENS.
AND WE NEED TO GET THOSE PEOPLE OUT OF OUR COUNTRY, AND WE NEED TO STOP THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THEM AND PROMOTE THEM WHO ARE AGAINST, UM, A BETTER UNION FOR OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY.
AS A REMINDER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TESTIFY, PLEASE SIGN UP ON THAT SHEET IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.
UM, EVERYONE WHO HAS SIGNED IN SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO SPEAK, SO I'M GONNA READ THROUGH THE NAMES.
IF YOU DON'T, THEN THAT'S THAT.
MA'AM, PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF.
ROLAND, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
UH, AS FAR AS THE DETENTION CENTER IS CONCERNED, UH, I, I DO SUPPORT THE, UH, MORATORIUM, BUT I HAVE CONCERNS IN THAT, UH, UH, A MORATORIUM, ABSOLUTE MORATORIUM ON ANY FACILITY HAS TO PASS CONS, HAS TO PASS CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTER, OTHERWISE, YOU'RE SUBJECTING THIS, UH, UH, BODY TO FURTHER LITIGATION.
AND I, I REFER TO, UH, A FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT HEARING DECISION ON, UH, UH, JUDGE CHRISTINA SNYDER IN CALIFORNIA, WHO ADDRESSED A SIMILAR SITUATION AS FAR AS MASKS ARE CONCERNED.
SHE SAID THAT, UH, IF NOT APPLIED EQUALLY, IT, UH, WOULD BE STRUCK DOWN.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT DETENTION CENTERS ARE SOMEWHAT STRUCK DOWN, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE WITHOUT, UH, UH, SUBJECTING THE, UM, LEGISLATURE TO ONGOING LITIGATION.
AND I REFER TO THE CORE CIVIC MATTER OVER IN KANSAS.
THAT COURT ALSO, THE APPELLATE COURT ALSO SUGGESTED, UH, CITED WITH THE CITY.
UM, BUT THEY COULDN'T PREVENT THE LOCATION, BUT THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY.
SO, UH, THIS MORATORIUM, UH, I BELIEVE WOULD PREVENT EVEN THE LOCATION, EVEN THOUGH I DO SUPPORT IT IN WHOLE.
WE NEED TO REVISE THE STATUTE AT IT AS IT'S PRESENTED SO THAT WE CAN AVOID ANY FURTHER, ANY FUTURE LITIGATION.
I'M AGAINST THE MORATORIUM, JUST LIKE THE MASK BAN BAN.
I AM FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.
THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY DO NOT, SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECTED TO A OUTRIGHT RESTRICTION ON THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY, THE LEASE OF THEIR PROPERTY, OR THE SELLING OF THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE TOLD WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY UNLESS THEY HAVE A PROPER HEARING AND DUE DILIGENCE.
IT IS A VIOLATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, 14TH AMENDMENT AND FEDERAL LAW TO DO A BLANKET BAN TO SAY WHAT YOU SOMEONE CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY AND WHAT SOMEONE CANNOT DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
THIS ORDINANCE IS ABSOLUTELY ABHORRENT TO OUR CONSTITUTION, AND IT IS A HITLER LIKE TACTIC TO SAY THAT ONE USE THAT IS LAWFUL IS RESTRICTED.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY SAD TO ME TO SEE THIS CHAMBER TAKE UP AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS TO EVEN CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHICH RESTRICTS AMERICANS USE OF THEIR PROPERTY AND THEIR ABILITY TO SELL IT, PROMOTE IT, DEVELOP IT, ET CETERA.
THAT IS NOT THE COUNTRY THAT WE LIVE IN.
WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY, A FREE SOCIETY, AND THIS IS NOT FREEDOM.
ANTOINE JENNINGS, AGAIN, BLUE SPRINGS, MISSOURI.
YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE, UH, GOVERNMENT TELLS US, UM, IF WE WANNA ADD AN ADDITION TO OUR HOME, WE GOTTA GO THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
IF WE WANNA TAKE OUT AN ADDITION TO OUR HOME, WE GOTTA GO THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
AND NOW WE WANNA SAY, OH, THE 14TH AMENDMENT.
BY GOLLY, G GOLLY, WHAT ABOUT THE 10TH AMENDMENT? WHAT ABOUT STATE'S RIGHTS? THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES
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NOT GET TO TELL THE STATES WHAT TO DO UNDER THEIR SUPERVISION AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.I'M VERY WELL VERSED IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE LAWS NOT ONLY IN THIS COUNTY, BUT IN THE CITY, IN THE CITIES IN WHICH WE LIVE, THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY LAWS THAT WE DON'T LIKE, LAWS THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH, BUT YET THE GOVERNMENT TELLS US ON A DAILY BASIS, WE CAN'T EVEN DRIVE A VEHICLE WITHOUT HAVING WHAT? A DRIVER'S LICENSE.
WE CAN'T DRIVE A VEHICLE WITHOUT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT TELL US, TELLING US WE HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE.
SO ABSOLUTELY, THIS BODY HAS THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO STATE WHAT THEY WANT IN THEIR COUNTY BECAUSE YOU REPRESENT US, THE PEOPLE I REMINDED YOU BEFORE, WE VOTED YOU IN FOR A REASON.
AND THAT REASON IS FOR US TO SEE YOU ACT ON OUR BEHALF.
PATRICIA PARKS FROM BLUE SPRINGS.
AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T PREPARE ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW MY FEELINGS.
I THINK THOSE DETENTION CENTERS ARE HORRIBLE.
UH, I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE, UM, OR THE REPRESENTATIVES IN WASHINGTON DC HAVE TRIED TO GO TO THESE DETENTION CENTERS AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED.
SO, AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THEIR RIGHT AND THEIR DUTY TO DO THAT.
THEY'RE NOT BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THOSE DETENTION CENTERS.
AND THERE'S LIKE THOUSANDS IN THEM.
SO I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST THE DETENTION CENTERS.
DAVID BROMAN, DID I GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME?
DAVID BROMAN, KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK.
UM, YEAH, I, UH, I HAVE TO DEFINITELY ECHO WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN SAID AND
LET'S BRING IT HERE AND PUT IT, PUT IT RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT DOWN, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM MY BOY'S SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, UM, THAT'S SAYING, I MEAN, THAT IS JUST SAYING, YEAH, WE APPROVE OF THIS FOUL MISTREATMENT OF HUMAN BEINGS AND, YOU KNOW, SHOW US AN AGENCY THAT'S ABOVE REPROACH, THAT IS WILLING TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AND SAY, I'M GONNA ARREST YOU FOR THIS.
SHOW YOU MY FACE, MY BADGE, WILLING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE.
THEN YOU KNOW THAT, THAT'S IT.
THAT'S AN AGENCY THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN TALK TO ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE PUTTING A, AN ACTUAL DETENTION CENTER, YOU KNOW, IN A COMMUNITY.
NOT JUST TURNING A, YOU KNOW, AN OLD SHIPPING HOUSE NEXT TO A TRAIL, A TRAIN YARD SURE BRINGS UP SOME IMAGES OF THE TWENTIES.
DO WE REALLY WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT? USHER IT IN.
AND I HOPE THAT, UH, I HOPE YOU DON'T EITHER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PAUL SVI.
MEMBERS, UH, PAUL SVI, SOUTH KANSAS CITY.
UH, FIRST OF ALL THE, UH, THE ANALOGY OF THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
I'M A JEWISH AMERICAN LIVING IN THE DIASPORA.
THIS IN TKA, SOBI DOOR, BERGEN BE, AND AUSCHWITZ.
THEY'RE NOT DROPPING CRYON B DOWN A SLOT WITH 500 JEWISH PEOPLE IN A, IN A SUPPOSED SHOWER.
UH, THE DEFENSIVE FACILITY FIRST, UH, RESPONSIBILITY OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, PROTECTED CITIZENS.
PART OF THAT IS PUTTING A PHYSICAL SECURITY BARRIER BETWEEN THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AND THE CRIMINALS AND THOSE THAT MEAN TO DO HARM TO THOSE CITIZENS.
DETENTION FACILITIES, JUST LIKE IN AFGHANISTAN, WE TOOK THE TALIBAN OFF THE BATTLEFIELD.
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WE TOOK 'EM IN DETENTION FACILITIES IN CANADA TO ARMED BA WHY? SO THEY WOULDN'T HARM OR KILL COALITION FORCES AND HURT AFGHANISTAN.SO THE, THE ISSUE IS JUST LIKE IN KANSAS OVER IN, UH, KANSAS CITY, KANSAS, WHEN YOU HAD THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUE WITH THE ILLEGAL CRIMINAL ALIENS THAT SHOT THE WOMAN, HAD SHE BEEN IN A DETENTION FACILITY, SHE MIGHT STILL BE ALIVE.
SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT THESE DETENTION FACILITIES WORK TO HELP PROTECT PEOPLE AND ALSO GIVE 'EM THE PROCESSING AGAIN, UM, A RISING OPPOSITION.
UH, THOSE TWO BROTHERS, THEY'RE ON THE PROPERTY, UH, MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT WERE TERRORIZED AND DOXED AND HARASSED BY, BY OFFICIALS.
BENJAMIN RUSTLER, UH, AND FINAL FOLKS THAT, UH, ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, PLEASE SIGN UP THERE.
UM, I THINK WE'RE WRAPPING UP ON THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION.
YES, I'M BENJAMIN WRESTLER AGAIN.
UH, WELL, I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS SERVICE, BUT I THINK IT'S INTERESTING TO COMPARE HIS TIME IN COMBAT THEATER TO HOW WE RUN JACKSON COUNTY, MISSOURI.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IT IS OUTRAGEOUS TO EVEN CONSIDER THAT A BUILDING THAT IS BUILT TO HOUSE CONSUMER GOODS IN TRANSIT CAN SOMEHOW BE MADE TO HUMANELY HOUSE HUMAN BEINGS.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT YOU CAN USE YOUR PROPERTY FOR.
THERE ARE RULES FOR RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
YOU CAN'T TURN A WAREHOUSE INTO A PRISON.
AND THESE PEOPLE'S RECORD, DOZENS OF PEOPLE DIED IN THEIR CUSTODY LAST YEAR FROM SHEER NEGLECT FROM NOT GETTING THEIR MEDICINE, FROM NOT BEING TREATED FOR THE HYPOTHERMIA THAT THEY CONTRACTED IN THOSE FACILITIES.
ANY OTHER PRISON THAT OPERATED IN SUCH A FASHION WOULD BE SHUT DOWN.
LEGITIMATE CORRECTIONS FACILITIES DON'T DO THIS.
AND AS WAS ALSO POINTED OUT IN THIS HEARING, IF THE GOAL WAS DEPORTATION, THEN WHY HOUSE? THOUSANDS OF THEM HERE IN JACKSON COUNTY WHERE A LEGAL FORM OF SLAVERY IN THE 14TH AMENDMENT CAN BE USED TO EXPLOIT THEM FOR THEIR LABOR.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THIS IS THE UNITED STATES.
AND EVEN IF IT WERE A CRIMINAL OFFENSE TO BE IN THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION, WHICH IT IS NOT, EVEN IF IT WERE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PROVE IT IN A COURT OF LAW.
THESE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES ARE AN INSULT TO THE LETTER AND SPIRIT OF EVERY DUE PROCESS LAW IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND THE IDEA THAT A NATION CONCEIVED IN LIBERTY IS FOR THIS IS INSULTING AND A JOKE.
THESE ARE NOT LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS AND THIS IS NOT A LEGITIMATE WAY TO TREAT HUMAN BEINGS.
ASHLEY MORGAN LEE, SUMMIT, MISSOURI.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN.
I'M HERE, UM, TO OPPOSE ANY ICED DETENTION WAREHOUSES IN IN JACKSON, UH, COUNTY.
OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT THESE FACILITIES ARE.
LARGE INDUSTRIAL DETENTION SITES OR CAMPS, UH, IN WHICH TO CONCENTRATE BROWN PEOPLE IN.
UM, THEY ARE DESIGNED TO CONFINE PEOPLE AND ISOLATING CONDITIONS WITH MINIMAL OVERSIGHT.
CHANGING THE TERMINOLOGY OF DETENTION CENTERS DOES NOT CHANGE THE REALITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THESE IMMIGRATION CAMPS HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY CITED FOR UNSAFE CONDITIONS, RAPE, TORTURE, AND THERE HAS BEEN A CONFIRMED MURDER AND ADEQUATE MEDICAL CARE, LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND LIMITED ACCESS TO LEGAL SUPPORT, IF ANY AT ALL.
ALIGNING JACKSON COUNTY WITH A SYSTEM THAT IS SUCH TROUBLING RECORD WOULD BE A SERIOUS MISTAKE.
RESIDENTS ARE ALSO RAISING A CRITICAL POINT HERE TODAY.
AND, UH, IN MY CONVERSATIONS, THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH IMMIGRANT IMMIGRANTS IN THE US TO FILL THE DETENTION CAMPS BEING BUILT NATIONWIDE.
EXISTING FACILITIES OFTEN SIT PARTIALLY EMPTY TO THIS DAY, YET NEW ONES CONTINUE TO BE PROPOSED THAT RAISES REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE MOTIVATIONS BEHIND THESE PROJECTS AND WHETHER THEY MIRROR THE PRIVATE PRISON MODEL.
PROFIT DRIVEN, OPAQUE, INDEPENDENT ON KEEPING BEDS FILLED.
BRINGING THESE WAREHOUSES HERE WOULD CREATE FEAR AMONG IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM REPORTING CRIMES OR SEEKING SERVICES AND UNDERMINE TRUST IN THE INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING HERE.
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RESOURCES AWAY FROM HOUSING, HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, COMMUNITY SAFETY PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY STRENGTHEN OUR COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FAIR QUESTIONS.WHO TRULY BENEFITS FROM THIS? WHY SHOULD OUR COUNTY BEAR THE MORAL AND SOCIAL COST OF HOSTING DETENTION CAMPS? AND WHY EXPAND DETENTION CAPACITY WHEN THE POPULATION, THESE FACILITIES TARGET DOES NOT JUSTIFY IT? JACKSON COUNTY DESERVES DEVELOPMENT THAT REFLECTS OUR VALUES.
WE SHOULD BE BUILDING A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE TIME AND CONTRIBUTE.
THANK YOU DEBORAH PARMA AND SARAH FERRIS, JUST SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN NAVIGATE THE AUDIENCE.
I, DEBORAH PARMA, KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI DETENTION FACILITIES IS JUST A EUPHEMISM FOR PRISONS.
TRUMP WAS SUPPOSED TO GO AFTER THE WORST OF THE WORST.
IT'S PROVEN THAT IMMIGRANTS DO LESS THAN HALF THE NUMBER OF CRIMES THAN AMERICAN CITIZENS DO.
THE PEOPLE THEY ARE PUTTING IN THESE PRISONS, AGAIN, ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOSTLY JUST HERE ILLEGALLY, WHICH IS A MISDEMEANOR, LIKE A TRAFFIC TICKET, AND THEY ARE BEING MISTREATED IN THERE.
I READ THE OTHER DAY, IS THIS PRISON IN DLY, WHICH HAS FAMILIES, CHILDREN THAT RECENTLY HAS BEEN TOO COLD FOR THEM TO GO OUTSIDE.
THE CHILDREN WOULD DRAW PICTURES.
THE GUARDS CAME IN AND TOOK THE PICTURES, THE PAPER, THE CRAYONS, THE PENCILS, THE CHILDREN CRIED.
THERE'S NOTHING FOR THEM TO DO.
UH UH, IT'S JUST TO BE MEAN TO THESE PEOPLE.
AND SO THOUSANDS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS THEY THINK TO HOLD, WELL, IF HE ACTUALLY DEPORTS THESE PEOPLE, WHO'S GONNA FILL 'EM TALK.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT TRUMP? WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE TRUMP? WHAT DO YOU THINK MIGHT HAPPEN TO THEM AND WHERE WOULD THEY PUT THEM? I JUST SAY YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THAT
UM, MY NAME IS SARAH FARN AND I AM, I LIVE IN KANSAS CITY.
UM, I'M ALSO A COLLEGE STUDENT.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE YOUTH.
UM, WE SEE MASS WALKOUTS IN OUR AREA AGAINST ICE OPERATIONS AND DETENTION CENTERS.
UM, AND I HOPE THAT, UM, MY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES WILL DO THEIR JOB AND HEAR OUR VOICES TO ACT.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I ATTEND SCHOOL, UM, CLASSES WITH MANY INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS AND PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES.
UM, DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE, STUDENT VISAS, THEY'RE HERE LEGALLY.
WE SEE THOSE PEOPLE BEING TAKEN UP BY ICE AND DETAINED, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT CITIZENS, THEY'RE HERE LEGALLY.
UM, SO WE SHOULD BE AGAINST, UM, DETENTION CENTERS.
IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT LEGALITY.
LET'S BRING UP LIAM RAMOS, 5-YEAR-OLD FROM MINNEAPOLIS, TAKEN FROM SCHOOL TO AN ICE DETENTION FACILITY.
OKAY, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT CRIMINALS, LET'S FOCUS ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THIS CITY.
I LOVE OUR DIVERSITY AND OUR DIFFERENT CULTURES, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO PREVENT A DETENTION CENTER.
WE DON'T WANT THAT BLOOD ON OUR HANDS.
WE DON'T WANT THOSE PEOPLE BEING HURT UNDER OUR WATCHFUL EYES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT DUE PROCESS, THAT'S NOT WHAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE DETENTION CENTERS.
THANKS FOR ALLOWING US ALL THAT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I'M GLAD I JUST FOLLOWED SOMEONE WHO BROUGHT UP THE WORD DO PRO OR THE PHRASE DUE PROCESS, BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.WE'VE HAD PEOPLE MOSTLY IN SUPPORT OF THE BAN AND OPPOSING THE DETENTION FACILITIES SPEAK ABOUT UN-AMERICAN ACTIONS IMPLICATIONS, AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT, WHO OPPOSE THE MASK, BAN AND SUPPORT THE DETENTION FACILITIES MAKING THE SAME ARGUMENT.
WE ALL LIKE TO USE THE ARGUMENT OF LIKE, THIS IS ANTI-AMERICAN.
WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE ANTI-AMERICAN.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AMERICAN? FUNDAMENTALLY, THE THE THING THAT MAKES OUR CONSTITUTION SPECIAL IS THE BILL OF RIGHTS.
THE BILL OF RIGHTS PROTECTS, UH, OR PREVENTS, PROTECTS FOR CITIZENS AND PREVENTS THE ARBITRARY USE OF STATE POWER.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY ALLOW WHAT'S ESSENTIALLY A FEDERALIZED POLICE FORCE TO CREATE A CHILLING EFFECT BY, BY FEARMONGERING IT'S SCARING PEOPLE.
OKAY, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DUE PROCESS.
WE WANNA SAY THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS ON AMERICAN, YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON DUE PROCESS.
MASS DETENTION FACILITIES ARE MOVEMENTS IN CONTRAVENTION TO THE BILL OF RIGHTS, TO THE, THE SPIRIT OF THIS COUNTRY.
THE LITERAL SPIRITUAL SOUL OF THIS COUNTRY IS THE BILL OF RIGHTS DUE PROCESS.
WITHOUT ANY TESTIMONY, UH, ANY FURTHER TESTIMONY.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR 60 50 AND 60 61.
UH, WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO, UH, COMMUNICATIONS
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AND REPORTS FROM OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE, UH, ANY REPORTS FROM OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE.VERY BRIEFLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANNA INFORM THIS BODY THAT THE BUDGET BOOKS ARE GONNA BE ONLINE, UH, BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK.
AND WE HAVE HARD COPIES BEING PRINTED OUT FOR EACH OF YOU WITH, UH, OUR TABS.
EVERYONE WANTED THE TABS, SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THE TABS WERE IN THERE.
UH, I WANTED MR. MR. EXECUTIVE, IF, IF WE COULD JUST PAUSE ONE SECOND.
JUST FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE LEAVING, UM, NOTE THAT THE ACTIONS WILL TAKE PLACE IMMEDIATELY UPON HIS REPORT.
UM, SO IF YOU WANT TO GO, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO SO.
UM, RESPECTFULLY OF OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE, BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT HEADS UP.
AND, UH, VERY BRIEFLY, I WANNA INFORM THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY.
UH, WE HAVE A, A, A POSITION OF A COUNTY VETERAN SERVICES OFFICER.
UM, THANK YOU FOR LEGISLATOR MARSHALL SMITH, WHO'S TALKED TO ME ABOUT THAT AND, AND KEPT COMING TO THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THAT.
IT'S AN ADVOCATE POSITION FOR VETERANS.
IT'S BEEN BUDGETED BY THIS BODY.
IT HASN'T BEEN FILLED, AND IT CONTINUES NOT TO BE FILLED.
WE FOUND OUT THAT IT GOT CAUGHT UP IN HR, DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.
SO THERE ARE APPLICANTS FOR THAT POSITION OF A COUNTY VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER.
THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION TO HELP ADVOCATE VETERANS ON ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
IT'S A, THEY WOULD HELP VETERANS, UH, ON ALL SORTS OF.
SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT AND GONNA BE DOING SOME INTERVIEWS AND GET SOMEONE IN THAT POSITION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
YOU THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA THERE, AND WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT IT, AND WE WILL.
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR COUNTY EXECUTIVE? ALL RIGHT.
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[AN ORDINANCE prohibiting law enforcement officers from concealing their faces or badges during performance of their official duties and establishing penalties and exemptions.]
THE PERFECTION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCES AND REPORTS OF COMMITTEES 60 50 PROHIBITING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM CONCEALING THEIR FACES OR BADGES DURING PERFORMANCE OF THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES IN ESTABLISHING PENALTIES AND EXEMPTIONS LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE.CAN I ASK OUR GENERAL COUNSEL? UM, I THINK I HAVE PASSED OUT.
UM, THIS, UH, LOOKS LIKE JANUARY 28TH, UM, SUPPLEMENT.
UH, CAN I ASK OUR GENERAL COUNSEL TO READ THAT FOR RECORD, PLEASE? WE NEED IT.
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL, UH, I'LL CONDENSE IT TO THE SPECIFIC ISSUES IN IT SO WE, I WON'T HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE ENTIRETY OF IT.
UH, THE COUNTY COUNCIL'S OFFICE DID NOT SIGN, UH, ORDINANCE 60 50 AS TO FORM AND CANNOT RECOMMEND ITS PASSAGE OR ENFORCEMENT AS THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE A ORDER FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO ABIDE BY ANY LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT ARE NOT ALSO CAPTURED IN FEDERAL LAW.
FEDERAL LAW DUE TO THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE THAT THE US CONSTITUTION SUPERSEDES ANY STATE OR LOCAL LAW.
TO THE CONTRARY, WHILE IT IS TRUE THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN MAKE ITS OWN LAWS AND CAN IN CERTAIN INSTANCES EXCEED THE STRICTNESS OF FEDERAL OR STATE LAW, IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE OR ENFORCE LAW THAT IS AN OPPOSITION TO FEDERAL LAW.
FOR EXAMPLE, A STATE COULD NOT AMEND ITS OWN CONSTITUTION TO REPUDIATE THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE US CONSTITUTION AND REQUIRE ALL NEWS TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BEFORE PUBLISHING OR DISSEMINATION.
THIS PRINCIPLE WAS RECENTLY UPHELD BY THE FEDERAL COURTS IN A CHALLENGE MADE TO MISSOURI'S SECOND AMENDMENT PROTECTION ACT, WHICH SOUGHT TO ABROGATE SPECIFIC FEDERAL LAWS WITHIN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.
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WAS SOUNDLY REJECTED AS A VIOLATION OF SUPREMACY CLAUSE.IN THIS INSTANCE, THERE IS NO US CODE PROVISION THAT PROHIBITS FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM WEARING FACE MASKS.
ATTIRE IS SET BY AGENCY POLICY, NOT STATUTE, WITH NO AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THE AGENCY POLICY STATE AND MUNICIPALITIES CANNOT CHANGE OR RESTRICT THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS UNIFORM AND THE REALM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
MUNICIPALITIES ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO DICTATE OR RESTRICT THE OPERATIONS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT IS NOT UNDER ITS DIRECT SUPERVISION.
AND EVEN AGENCIES THAT DO NOT ACT UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF MUNICIPALITY, OF PROTECT, HAVE PROTECTIONS AGAINST UNDUE INTERFERENCE ON THEIR ACTIVITIES BY A MUNICIPALITY.
WE'VE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION JUST RECENTLY OCCURRED WHERE THIS BODY PASSED A, A GUN ORDINANCE THAT WAS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE STATE, AND IT WAS KIND OF IN BETWEEN WHAT THE FEDERAL LAW WAS.
UM, WE'RE IN A TIME WHERE THERE'S LAWFARE AND, AND EVERYTHING BECOMES LITIGATION, AND WE GOT SUED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE ON THAT MATTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, NOT TO GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, IT'S A NOMINAL CASE AT THIS POINT, BUT THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT AND THEY'LL GET ATTORNEY FEES, AND THAT COULD COST THE TAXPAYERS OF JACKSON COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY.
SO, AS MUCH AS I UNDERSTAND THE SYMBOLISM OF PASSING A LAW LIKE THIS WITH THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE THAT'S ON THE BOOKS, AND THAT HAS PREVENTED OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND TAXING JURISDICTIONS TO DO SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE, I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT WE'D BE FACING LITIGATION ON THIS MATTER LIKE WE HAVE IN THE PRESS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LEMME KNOW.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR OUR GENERAL COUNSEL? YEP.
SO, I, I NOTICED THAT MR. KAVINSKY, AS WELL AS, UH, ONE PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE OR WEARING MASKS, I'M GONNA MAKE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THIS IS EITHER FOR YOUR PROTECTION OR FOR THE PROTECTION OF OTHERS.
UM, YES, IT WAS A HORRIBLE TIME FOR ME TO GET SICK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 10 YEARS, AND I, I, I WANTED TO COME IN TODAY, BUT YEAH, I COULD ALSO TRY TO OTHERS, AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T WANNA TO PRY INTO YOUR HEALTH, BUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND, AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, UM, DID YOU HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO WEAR A MASK TODAY?
SO YOU, YOU USED YOUR JUDGMENT THAT IT MIGHT BE BEST FOR YOUR PROTECTION OR THE PROTECTION OF OTHERS TO WEAR A MASK TODAY.
AND, AND THAT JUDGMENT WILL BE DIFFERENT TOMORROW OR A FEW DAYS FROM NOW.
UM, AND, AND I BRING THAT UP JUST TO SAY, UM, LEGISLATING LIKE THIS, PRESENT LEGISLATION IS, UM, TO, TO MANDATE SOMETHING FIRST, THAT, AS THE COUNTY COUNSELOR HAS STATED, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT, UH, THAT CAN AND WILL COST TAXPAYERS MONEY TO DEFEND BECAUSE, UM, THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR DEFENDING ORDINANCES THAT WE PASS, UM, IS ALL A REPRESENTATION OF IRRESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT.
AND I'LL ASK THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, UM, IF WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE, WILL YOU SIGN THIS ORDINANCE? OR WILL YOU VETO THIS ORDINANCE? OR HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU DEVELOPED A POSITION AT THIS POINT? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'M LISTENING AND THE POSITION COMES IF THIS BODY PASSES SOMETHING, IT WILL COME FROM ME FOR MY REVIEW.
UM, AND, AND FINALLY, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, THAT WE HAVE AN OPTION AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY TO MAKE, UM, STATEMENTS THAT WE, THAT WE FEEL AS A BODY, WE WANNA MAKE A MAJORITY THAT AREN'T SUBJECT TO A VETO AND AREN'T SUBJECT NECESSARILY TO LITIGATION AND, AND, AND ENFORCEMENT.
UM, THAT, THAT IS THE RESOLUTION PROCESS IN THIS CASE.
THE, UM, SPONSOR OF THIS ORDINANCE, UH, LEGISLATOR OF BARCA, CHAIRMAN OF BARCA, UM, IS, IS PLACING THE COUNTY AT RISK TO MAKE A PHILOSOPHICAL STATEMENT THAT MIGHT BE POPULAR WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT, BUT IS DOING SO VIA AN AVENUE, AN ORDINANCE, WHICH, UM, IS NOT ENFORCEABLE, BUT WILL HAVE TO BE DEFENDED AT A COST TO THE COUNTY.
AND, AND THEREFORE, IT JUST SMACKS TO ME OF IRRESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT, UM, IF WE CHOOSE TO PASS THIS.
I GUESS, UM, THE, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, ASIDE FROM THE IDEA THAT A, A RESOLUTION WOULD MAYBE BE THE CORRECT AVENUE GIVEN, UM, THE DESIRE TO MAKE A STATEMENT WHILE NO, UM, ENFORCEMENT IS POSSIBLE, UM, THAT PLACING LAWS ON THE BOOKS FILING AND, AND PASSING ORDINANCES THAT ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE ACTUALLY SERVES TO ERODE THE LAW.
MEANING IF PEOPLE SEE THAT WE HAVE A CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND SOME OF THEM ARE SUBJECT TO ENFORCEMENT, AND OTHERS ARE SUBJECT TO BEING IGNORED, WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM OF LAWLESSNESS THAT THE RESOLUTION PURPORTS TO TRY TO SOLVE.
IT PURPORTS TO TRY TO SAY, UM, PEACE OFFICERS,
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POLICE OFFICERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SHOULD BE OPEN.AND, AND IF YOU ACCEPT, ACCEPT THAT PREMISE AND THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE LAW, THERE ARE AVENUES TO GET THAT MADE PART OF THE LAW AT A FEDERAL LEVEL.
AND INSTEAD OF EXERCISING THOSE, WE HAVE DISTRACTED PEOPLE WASTED THEIR TIME AND BROUGHT THEM HERE TO, TO ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST SOMETHING THAT, THAT CAN SIMPLY HAVE NO LEGAL IMPACT.
UM, SO I'LL JUST KIND OF PAUSE THERE.
LIKE I SAID, I, I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE WEAR MASKS SOMETIMES FOR REASONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC AND TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL JUDGMENT.
UM, AND I ALSO KNOW AND WANNA NOTE THAT WE DID HEAR FROM THE COUNTY SHERIFF, THE ONLY AGENCY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT MIGHT BE SUBJECT TO THIS ORDINANCE, UM, AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT AND, AND IT BEING A LAWFUL ORDINANCE.
AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN OFFICERS DO WEAR MASKS FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY.
UM, SOMETIMES THERE ARE ARRESTING INDIVIDUALS THAT, UH, UM, MIGHT BE AFFILIATED WITH GANGS AND THEREFORE HAVE DANGEROUS GANG MEMBERS WHO MIGHT SEEK TO RETALIATE.
UM, THERE ARE SUCH A LARGE SWATH OF POTENTIAL REASONS WHY LAW ENFORCEMENT MIGHT CHOOSE TO DO SOMETHING OR CHOOSE NOT TO DO SOMETHING THAT FOR US TO, TO TRY TO, UM, LEGISLATE THAT, UH, WITHOUT A THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING, A LOT MORE LANGUAGE, A LOT MORE ADVICE AND CONSENT FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, SEEMS TO ME TO TO BE A MISTAKE.
UM, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PAUSE THERE IN CASE MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO, UM, ASK OTHER QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, THOUGHTS.
I'M GONNA PASS THE GAVEL TO YOU, SIR, SO THAT YOU CAN ACKNOWLEDGE ME.
FIRST, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, FOR TESTIFYING, FOR SHARING.
UH, PART OF THIS PROCESS IS YOUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY, WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST ANY OF THESE, THESE EFFORTS.
UM, I, I THINK THAT THE LEGAL OPINION HERE IS, IS INTERESTING.
UM, MR. KAVINSKY, THERE IS NOTHING, AND I THINK YOU CI IT.
UM, THERE IS NO US CODE PROVISION THAT PROHIBITS FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM WEARING FACE MASKS.
THUS, WITHOUT A PROHIBITION OR A, I GUESS, DECISION, WHAT PREVENTS US FROM CREATING, UH, AN ENFORCEABLE LOCAL ORDINANCE VIOLATION, THE SUPREMACY WOULD INTEND THAT THERE'S A LAW THAT WE WOULD BE VIOLATING.
SO WHAT'S A, AGAIN, IT'S A SUPREMACY ISSUE.
WE CAN'T TELL A FEDERAL AGENT HOW TO, HOW TO ADDRESS WHEN THEY'RE IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI, BECAUSE IT'S A, THE FEDERAL LAW EXPANDS ALL STATES IN THE COUNTRY.
BUT, BUT WHAT'S THE LAW THAT THEY'RE POSSESSION OF? WELL, THAT PROTECT, THEY HAVE AGENCY POLICIES THAT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN DO IT, WHICH IS NOT LAW.
I MEAN, YOU CAN SAY IT'S NOT LAW, BUT IF THE AGENCY HAS A POLICY ON WHAT THEIR AGENTS CAN WEAR, THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL INTEND TO ENFORCE.
A BIG ISSUE HERE IS WHETHER OR NOT AN ACTION CAN BE TAKEN IN FEDERAL COURT OR STATE COURT, AND IN THIS CASE IT'S MUNICIPALITY.
AND THAT'S WHERE, AGAIN, THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE WOULD PREVENT US FROM DOING IT.
UM, SO DO, DO, IN THAT OPINION, DO ICE AGENTS HAVE TO FOLLOW SPEED LIMITS? OF COURSE, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR ENFORCEMENT, BUT THAT'S A LOCAL ENFORCEMENT.
THE STATE PROHIBIT PROHIBITION.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW IT.
SO I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE SAME COORDINATION HERE OF PROCESS.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THEY HAVE TO, SO WHY DO THEY HAVE TO? I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE STATUTE OR ORDINANCE THAT'S ON THE BOOKS.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO FOLLOW THE LOCAL LAWS WHEN IT COMES TO SPEEDING AND ALL OF THAT, UM, IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT MATTER OF WHATSOEVER.
SO I THINK MY POINT HERE IS THAT THERE ARE SOME MEANS IN WHICH LOCAL LAWS DICTATE PARTICIPATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF, BECAUSE IF THEY VIOLATED, POLICE OFFICERS CAN PULL THEM OVER.
UM, POLICE OFFICERS HAVE PULLED OVER OTHER POLICE OFFICERS VIOLATING LAW.
IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT THEM FROM NOT PARTICIPATING BECAUSE THEY'RE A HIGHER AUTHORITY.
UM, SO THERE'S SOME LEGAL OPINIONS THERE THAT I'M SURE WE CAN FIGURE OUT.
THE OTHER QUESTION, UH, THAT I HAVE, UH, OR, OR I GUESS REFERENCE, UM, IS, IS REALLY ABOUT UNDERSTANDING HOW, FROM ONE SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT, SIX YEARS AGO, FOLKS DIDN'T WANNA WEAR MASKS TO PROTECT THEM FROM PUBLIC HEALTH ARGUMENTS.
AND YET NOW THEY'RE ADVOCATING FOR HIDING BEHIND MASKS BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO MUCH OF A SNOWFLAKE, UM, TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND HOW ICE AGENTS HAVE SOME INCREDIBLY HARD AND CHALLENGING JOB TO ROUND UP 5-YEAR-OLD CHILDREN.
SO, I, I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN HAVE BOTH IN OUR COUNTY,
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BECAUSE THIS BODY HAS REGULATED MASKS, UM, HAS FACED CHALLENGES BOTH FEDERALLY AND LOCALLY.UM, AND SEEMINGLY, UH, WE HAVE SIMILAR PEOPLE WHO ARE ADVOCATING ONE, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO TELL US ABOUT OUR MASK ORDINANCE PROCESSES.
I THINK THAT WAS A HEALTH ISSUE AND IT, IT APPLIED THROUGHOUT THE STATE, OR IN THIS INSTANCE IN THE COUNTY.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD LAWSUITS WITH THE STATE AGENCY FOR OUR MASK ORDINANCES.
AND IT'S, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROTECTING YOUR OWN CITIZENS IN YOUR COUNTY VERSUS LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL BEING IN YOUR COUNTY.
AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE UNDER MORE RESTRICTIONS FOR WEARING WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY HAVE A EXPLANATION FOR WHY THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, I'M NOT TAKING AN OPINION ON IT, I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE STANDS FOR.
UM, WHICH I APPRECIATE THAT PART.
UM, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO THIRD PARTY COUNSEL EVALUATING THIS, UM, EXTERNALLY AND GIVING US SOME UNDERSTANDING AND PERSPECTIVE IF, IF EITHER YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO YOU? UM, NOT, NOT TO DISMISS YOUR, YOUR REPORT, BUT JUST TO SEEK ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE ON CONSTITUTIONALITY AND MEANS FOR WHICH WE CAN, UH, IMPLEMENT THIS? BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S SOME BALANCE OF FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE TO FOLLOW A SPEED LIMIT THAT'S A LOCAL REGULATION.
SO HOW CAN WE FIND AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO PROTECT CITIZENS? BECAUSE AS YOU'VE SUGGESTED, UH, WE HAVE, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT FOLKS, UH, TWO PEOPLE WERE AT LEAST KILLED BY MASS AGENTS IN MINNEAPOLIS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO THAT REQUIREMENT OF PROTECTION AS WELL.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROTECTION OF MASSED MEN, UM, OR WOMEN, I GUESS FROM ICE, DOING A JOB THAT THEY SIGNED UP TO DO VOLUNTARILY IS NOT REALLY MY PROBLEM.
UM, SO I'M NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT THAT PART.
UM, AND IF THEY'RE TOO SCARED TO DO THAT JOB, DON'T DO IT.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEEK THIRD PARTY COUNSEL, UM, IN THAT MEANS TO, TO GET US SOME MORE UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE.
IF WE'RE GONNA DEFAULT TO, IT'S NOT LEGAL TO DO.
UM, I THINK WE CAN FOLLOW UP AND GET SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE ON THIS.
THERE'S BEEN A SUGGESTION OF THIRD PARTY COUNSEL, LEGISLATOR ANDERSON.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO HOLD ORDINANCE 6 0 5 0 SECOND.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED AND THIRDED TO HOLD ORDINANCE 6 0 5 0 AT THIS TIME.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY SIGN OF AYE.
I THINK THE AYES HAVE IT OVER THE, OVER THE INTERCOM INTERNET THERE.
UH, LEGISLATOR SMITH AND LEGISLATOR FRANKLIN, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE HOLD? HOLD IS FINE BY ME.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK WE SHOULD DO A ROLL CALL THOUGH.
IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHO IS IN FAVOR OR NOT, I, WE HAD, UM, FOUR HERE THAT WERE YES.
AND LEGISLATOR FRANKLIN MAKES FIVE.
SO MARY JO, IF YOU CALL THE ROLL ON A HOLD.
HE'S GOTTA BE ON VIDEO TO VOTE AS WELL.
UM, CAN WE ASK THE GENERAL COUNSEL EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE FIVE, CONVENE FIVE AFTERWARDS AND TALK ABOUT THIRD PARTY COUNSEL OPTIONS FOR THE HOLD, IF THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE PREFERS.
SO 60 50 IS CURRENTLY HELD, UH, MOVING ON TO 60 54,
[AN ORDINANCE requesting a renewal of a conditional use permit (CUP) in District AG (Agricultural) for continuous operation of a horse boarding facility subject to specified conditions, as to a 48.09± acre tract.]
REQUESTING A RENEWAL, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, CUP AND DISTRICT AG AGRICULTURE FOR CONTINUOUS OPERATION OF A HORSE BOARDING FACILITY, SUBJECT TO SPECIFY CONDITIONS AS TO A 48.09 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE TRACK LAND USE COMMITTEE.I WAS HOPING, I'M HOPING TO, UH, PERFECT ALL THESE BY A VO VOTE, VOICE VOTE, AND THEN MOVE TO ADOPT.
IS THERE A MOTION WE'LL MOVE TO PERFECT.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY THE SIGN OF AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED AYES HAVE IT.
OH, I'D LIKE TO IF WE 6 60, 54.
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ADOPTING, I NEED TO, I GUESS WE, WE NEED A ROLL CALL ON THAT, I BELIEVE.[AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 19.48± acre tract from District AG (Agricultural) to District RE (Residential Estates).]
ONE ABSTAIN.UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SIGN OF AYE.
HAVE IT AYES DO INDEED HAVE IT MOVE, MOVE TO ADOPT.
UH, MAYOR JOE, YOU CALL THE ROLL ANDERSON.
ONE EXCUSED AND ONE ABSTAINING.
[AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 20.00± acre tract from District AG (Agricultural) to District RR (Residential Ranchette).]
AMENING THE ZONING DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BY REZONING A CERTAIN 20.00 PLUS OR MINUS SACRED TRACT FROM DISTRICT AG AGRICULTURE TO DISTRICT R RESIDENTIAL RANCH AT LAND.COMMITTEE REPORT FROM COMMITTEE HEARING PER FACT.
AND ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE? ABOUT A SIGN OF AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED THE AYES HAVE IT.
UM, IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? MOVE TO ADOPT.
[AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 70.00± acre tract from District AG (Agricultural) to District RR (Residential Ranchette).]
AMENING THE ZONING DISTRICT ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO THE UNIFIED DE CODE BY REZONING A CERTAIN 70.00 PLUS OR MINUS AC TRACT FROM DISTRICT AG AGRICULTURAL TO DISTRICT R RESIDENTIAL RANCH AT LAND.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY THE SIGN OF AYE.
DO INDEED HAVE IT? UH, IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? MOVE TO MOVE TO ADOPT? SECOND.
MARY JO, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[AN ORDINANCE appropriating $636,425.00 from the undesignated fund balance of the 2026 Park Fund for construction services provided by Hartline Construction of North Kansas City, MO for use by the Parks + Rec Department.]
APPROPRIATING 3 630 $6,425 FROM THE DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE OF THE 2026 PARK FUND FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES PROVIDED BY HEARTLINE CONSTRUCTION OF NORTH KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI FOR USE BY THE PARKS PLUS REC DEPARTMENT.UH, COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET, SO IT'LL BE HELD.
[AN ORDINANCE submitting to the qualified voters of Jackson County, Missouri, at the general election to be held on April 7, 2026, a question to amend the Jackson County Charter, with an effective date.]
SUBMITTING TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF JACKSON COUNTY, MISSOURI AT THE GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON APRIL 7TH, 2026.A QUESTION TO AMEND THE JACKSON COUNTY CHARTER WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE REPORT FROM COMMITTEE COMMITTEES HOLDING.
[AN ORDINANCE prohibiting all permit and zoning approvals for non-County or municipal government owned detention facilities.]
PROHIBITING ALL PERMIT AND ZONING APPROVALS FOR NON COUNTY OR MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OWNED DETENTION FACILITIES.I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT WE GET A LEGAL OPINION ON THIS ONE.
IT FEELS LIKE A VIOLATION OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT THAT GIVES PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO THEIR PROPERTY, AND WE ARE PROACTIVELY, UH, ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATING, UH, THE RIGHT TO USE THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SEE FIT TO EVERY JACKSON COUNTY RESIDENT AND PROPERTY OWNER WITHOUT ANY DUE PROCESS.
ANY THOUGHTS? SO I'D MOVE TO HOLD.
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NO.REMIND US, MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER TWO.
SO, UM, OTHER ACTIONS FOR ORDINANCE 60 61? MR. CHAIRMAN? UH, YES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO PERFECT.
UH, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE ORDINANCE, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MR. ANDERSON.
UH, AS WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST, UH, YEAR AND A HALF, UM, UH, REALLY EVER SINCE THE BEGINNING, THE CREATION OF ICE, WE HAVE SEEN AN ATTACK ON INDIVIDUALS, UH, HUMAN BEINGS WHO MAY NOT BE AMERICAN CITIZENS, BUT ARE STILL HUMAN BEINGS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON TODAY HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON, UH, NOT ONLY ABOUT IF, IF WE, UH, CHOOSE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT, WHETHER IT IS BY THE CITIZENS OF JACKSON COUNTY, OR, UH, WHETHER THAT, UH, MEANS HOW WE PERSONALLY FEEL ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT BOTH ARE IN ONE AND THE SAME AS WE LOOK AT THIS AND WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED, EVEN WHEN THESE OPENED UP.
UH, SOME HAVE ARGUED ABOUT, UH, UNDER, UH, PRESIDENT OBAMA OR PRESIDENT BUSH, PRESIDENT OBAMA, PRESIDENT BIDEN, PRESIDENT TRUMP, I WILL SAY THEY'VE ALL BEEN WRONG.
THEY'VE ALL BEEN A HORRIBLE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION AND WRONG.
THESE CAMPS, THESE, UH, UH, UH, BUILDINGS THAT THE CURRENT SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY USES TO PARADE HERSELF IN FRONT OF.
WHEN YOU HAVE HUMAN BEINGS STACKED ON EACH OTHER WITH ONE BATHROOM, IF THEY'RE LUCKY, WITH ONE AIR CONDITIONER, IF THEY'RE LUCKY WITH ANY TYPE OF MEDICAL AID, IF THEY'RE LUCKY, BUT YOU HAVE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE BEING FORCED INTO A CELL AND TO SAY, WELL, THEY'LL BE FINE.
THE REASON WHY I BELIEVE THAT THIS ORDINANCE, I THINK ANYTHING RELATING TO THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE NOW IS SO CRUCIAL IS BECAUSE WE ARE SLOWLY BUT SURELY LOSING OUR HUMANITY IN THIS COUNTRY.
AT ONE TIME IN THIS COUNTRY, IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR MY MOTHER TO BE MARRIED TO MY FATHER.
AT ONE TIME, IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR ME TO EXIST.
ONE TIME IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS LEGISLATURE, THE WOMEN THAT ARE ON THIS LEGISLATURE, TO EVEN HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE OR TO BE ABLE TO VOTE.
WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT OUR HISTORY, AND PEOPLE WILL SAY, THIS IS NOT AMERICA.
WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE,
SO I WILL SAY, SO IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO COME FOR US, SO BE IT.
IF THE STATE WANTS TO COME FOR US, SO BE IT.
I'M NOW IN MY SEVENTH YEAR ON THIS LEGISLATURE, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE FIGHTS DURING 2020 AND THE MASS MANDATE I'VE SEEN LIVES DESTROYED.
I'VE SEEN P ADVOCATES, UH, KILLED.
I HAVE SEEN FRIENDS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES.
NOT ONLY THOSE INDIVIDUALS, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS ON BEHALF OF ME BECAUSE I TAKE THIS ON THE CHIN.
WHEN YOU SERVE IN PUBLIC OFFICE, YOU ARE BEHOLDEN TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT WHEN YOU DECIDE TO ATTACK A WOMAN WHO IS DEDICATED HER LIFE TO BEING A NURSE FOR WELL OVER 45 YEARS, AND TO SAY THAT YOU WILL FIND HER AND THAT YOU WILL DO TERRIBLE THINGS, AND WHEN YOU DECIDE
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THAT YOU'LL SHOW UP TO WHEREVER HER DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT IS AND TO DO UNSPEAKABLE THINGS, THAT TELLS YOU THE MENTALITY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ANTI MASK ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.AND NOW I FIND IT FASCINATING, AND WE NOW HAVE THESE SAME INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SAYING, WELL, THESE PEOPLE WILL BE DOXED.
WELL, THESE PEOPLE WILL FACE ALL THESE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.
WELL, THESE CAMPS WILL KEEP US SAFE.
WHAT DOES NOT KEEP THE PEOPLE SAFE IS WHEN FELLOW CITIZENS TO SAY TO, EVEN THOUGH IT IS MY MOTHER THAT SHE SHOULD DIE.
WHAT DOES NOT SPEAK TO THE ADVOCACY OF LAW AND ORDER IS THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE SEEN AS LESSER.
I KNOW THE ARGUMENT WILL BE SAID AGAIN, THAT THIS IDEA THAT WE ARE IMPEDING ON SOMEONE'S RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR LAND.
BUT I WILL SAY, LET JACKSON COUNTY DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND.
BECAUSE IF WE LOOK AT THIS AS A WHOLE, IF WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN WHO'VE BEEN TAKEN IN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF THOSE WHO'VE BEEN DIS WHO ARE DISABLED, WHO'VE BEEN TAKEN IN AND PUT IN THESE CAMPS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF PREGNANT WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN PUT IN THESE CAMPS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL JUST TRYING TO GET BY IN THIS WORLD, WHO HAVE BEEN PUT IN THESE CAMPS, THEY ARE THE VAST MAJORITY.
HE HAS LIED ABOUT WHAT HE HAD PROMISED, THAT THESE WILL BE CRIMINALS AND THOSE WHO THREATEN OUR SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.
I'VE BEEN HERE, LIKE I SAID, SEVEN YEARS, UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS PLACE WORKS, AND I KNOW OUR LIMITATIONS.
BUT IF WE REFUSE TO EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE TO EVEN PUSH BACK, THEN WHAT WILL THEN BE SAID OF US WHEN WE'RE NO LONGER HERE? AGAIN, MANY WILL PROBABLY WILL SAY, OH, HE'S JUST BEING DRAMATIC.
REFERENCING SLAVERY, REFERENCING JIM CROW ERA LAWS REFERENCING THIS PUSH BY, UH, EVEN DURING THE TIMES OF BUSING THAT WE COULD, UH, PICK UP FAMILIES AND, AND, AND AS SO MANY OF THE PARTS DOWN IN THE SOUTH WANTED TO DO THAT, IF YOU WERE CAUGHT A BLACK FAMILY GOING INTO ANOTHER, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAD TOLD YOU TO THAT WE'LL PUT YOU IN A CAMP, MAKE YOU FEEL THIS PAIN.
I URGE EVERYONE TO READ FANNIE LOU HAMER'S STATEMENTS ON THAT DURING THE SIXTIES.
AND WHAT WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND IS I DO NOT KNOW HOW ANY INDIVIDUAL OF THIS COUNTRY, OR BY MY FAITH AS A CHRISTIAN OR EVEN THOSE WHO ARE NONBELIEVERS OF ANOTHER FAITH, IF YOU CAN AGREE THAT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S NOT HERE LEGALLY, WHO IS IN A RETIREMENT HOME AND HAS, UH, SOME SORT OF A DISEASE THAT'S HAPPENED IN ARIZONA, THAT INDIVIDUAL DRAGGED OUT, THROWN INTO ONE OF THESE CAMPS AND THEN DIE BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW AN INDIVIDUAL CAN SAY THAT.
A 5-YEAR-OLD CHILD, THE 12-YEAR-OLD CHILD, THE 13-YEAR-OLD CHILD, THE AMERICAN CITIZEN, THE AMERICAN CITIZEN, AGAIN, WHO'S BEEN PUT IN THESE CAMPS BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN AND THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY SPEAK DESERVES TO BE IN CAMPS WHERE YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED ACCESS TO MEDICAL HELP, ACCESS TO ANY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, ANY ACCESS TO INTERNATIONAL LAW RIGHTS, ANYTHING, HOW WE CAN SIT AND SAY, WELL, WE HAVE NO POWER.
I BELIEVE WE'RE BETTER THAN THAT.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS WHY I MOVE THAT WE PERFECT.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM LEGISLATORS? MR. CHAIRMAN? UH, MR. VICE CHAIR.
SO, UM, FOR, FOR OUR COUNTY COUNSELOR, APPARENTLY WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THE TIME TO GET A LEGAL OPINION ON THIS ONE.
SO YOU CONSIDER THIS TO BE A LAWFUL ORDINANCE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES? YES.
I DO THINK WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA
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TO BAN A ZONING SITUATION.WHEREAS IF THEY PROCESSED IT, THAT WAS THE ORDINANCE WOULD THEN APPLY.
THAT WAS GONNA BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS, WAS, UH, UH, THIS ONLY APPLIES TO UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY.
I WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THE MUNICIPALITY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A ZONING, UH, DIVISION.
WHETHER OR NOT IT APPLIES, BUT, AND, AND SO WITHIN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY, WE CAN PREEMPTIVELY SAY TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THEY CAN'T USE THEIR PROPERTY FOR A LAWFUL PURPOSE.
THAT, THAT WE AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY HAPPEN TO HAVE AN OBJECT, AN AN OBJECTION TO I THINK SO.
SO WITHOUT GIVING THEM A CHANCE TO APPLY FOR 'CAUSE 'CAUSE UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO FACILITY, THIS IS NOT A QUESTION FOR MY COLLEAGUES, FOR THE AUDIENCE.
THERE IS NO FACILITY BEING CONTEMPLATED THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT'S ASKED FOR A PERMIT IN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY.
AND WE ARE SAYING PREEMPTIVELY DON'T BOTHER.
THAT FEELS TO ME LIKE WE HAVE REDUCED PROPERTY OWNERS' RIGHTS, THAT THEY BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY.
THEY SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO US, HAVE DUE PROCESS AND SAY, I WANT TO ZONE THIS PROPERTY AND HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR, IN THIS CASE, A DETENTION CENTER.
BUT WE'RE PREEMPTIVELY SAYING TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT ALLOWED TO USE IT THAT WAY.
I THINK THE AUTHORITY OF THIS ELECTED BOARD CAN, CAN DO THAT WITH THE ZONING POWER THAT IT HAS.
I, I DISAGREE AS A LAY PERSON.
UH, IT SEEMS PROBLEMATIC TO ME, BUT, UM, I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA, THERE AGAIN, HAVE, UH, POTENTIALLY SOMEBODY TRY TO LITIGATE THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE TIME TO LITIGATE SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO CHALLENGE.
SOMEBODY WILL SAY, WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS PLANNING TO USE MY PROPERTY FOR, AND NOW IT'S WORTH LESS THAN IT WOULD'VE BEEN IF I HAD HAD THAT OPTION.
AND WE CAN, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR CLARIFICATION THAT, THAT YOU SIGNED OFF ON THIS.
I THINK WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY AS AN ELECTED BODY.
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COLLEAGUES? NO, UH, ONLINE LEGISLATOR SMITH OR FRANKLIN? ANYTHING FROM YOU ALL? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE YOUR HAND WAS UP.
UM, MR. KAVINSKY, YOU STATED THAT THIS WAS JUST FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT THE COUNTY OWNS.
AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, DO WE HAVE A PROCESS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR APPLICANTS TO SUBMIT ZONING, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT ZONING APPLICATIONS, ALL THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED HERE IN THIS ORDINANCE? YES, WE DO.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING STOPPING, UH, A POTENTIAL APPLICANT WHO MAY WANT TO PUT UP ONE OF THESE TYPE OF FACILITY FACILITIES FROM APPLYING FOR, UM, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT LISTED IN HERE.
I MEAN, IT, IT DOESN'T PREVENT THEM FROM DOING SO.
UM, BUT THE COMMISSION WOULD MOST LIKELY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ORDINANCES PASSED BY THIS BODY.
SO I GUESS MY STATEMENT WOULD BE TO THE BODY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO VET ALL TYPES OF APPLICATIONS, UM, THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING VERY WELL FOR ALL TYPES OF, UH, REZONING AND ZONING TYPE OF PROJECTS.
SO TO DOUBLE DOWN ON SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS FOR, UH, I REALLY DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MS. LEGISLATOR SMITH? ALL RIGHT.
LEGISLATOR ANDERSON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU SAID? UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, WHAT DID WE DO IN, UH, CONJUNCTION WITH, UM, THE, I KNOW WE, WE SHUT DOWN A ADULT ENTERTAINMENT SHOP, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
DIDN'T WE MAKE IT THAT WE CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE OF THOSE THINGS IN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY? ISN'T THAT WHAT THAT LEGISLATION WAS ABOUT? YEAH, IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I KNOW WE CHANGED THE TIMEFRAME OF WHEN THEY COULD, UH, BE OPEN THAT, UH, IN ESSENCE THEN I BELIEVE SHUT IT DOWN.
BUT I'D HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT THE ORDINANCE TO REMEMBER WHAT SPECIFICALLY WE WROTE SPECIFICALLY ON THE ACTUAL BUSINESS.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE, THE TIMEFRAME OF WHEN THEY COULD BE OPEN WAS AN ISSUE.
AND THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP IS, AGAIN, I, I APPRECIATE BOTH SMITH'S STATEMENTS, BUT, UH, WE DO THIS, WE, WE DO THIS BECAUSE THE THING IS, IS THAT WE KNEW THAT THAT ADULT,
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WHATEVER IT WAS, WAS HAVING POSSIBLY, WELL, WE, IT WASN'T POSSIBLY, IT WAS IN THE POLICE REPORT THAT THEY HAD, UH, UH, UNDERAGE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE BEING TRAFFICKED, THAT THEY HAD DRUGS, THAT THEY WERE HAVING ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF, OF HORRIBLE THINGS GOING ON.AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW THIS.
WHAT'S THE CORE ISSUE OF IT? I THINK WE SHOULD BE DONE WITH IT.
WELL, WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
PEOPLE OF BLUE SUMMIT DESERVE BETTER.
SO WHEN WE DECIDE, UH, AND I THINK, FORGIVE, FORGIVE ME, I THINK IT WAS CALLED WHATEVER THE SPOT OR SOMETHING, WHATEVER IT WAS, WHEN WE SAY, LET'S NOT GET TOO SPECIFIC, WE'VE HAD THIS HERE, HERE BEFORE.
NOTHING STOPPED THOSE PLACES FROM KEEPING THEIR DOORS OPEN UNTIL THIS BODY MADE A DECISION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
SO IN, IN THAT INSTANCE, THERE WAS A BUSINESS THAT WAS VIOLATING LAW, AND WE SOUGHT TO PLACE RESTRICTIONS THAT MADE THEM LESS PROFITABLE.
WE DIDN'T TELL THEM THAT THEY COULDN'T STILL HAVE A BUILDING.
WE DIDN'T TELL THEM HOW THEY COULD OR COULDN'T USE IT, BUT WE DO THAT FROM TIME TO TIME.
UM, GENERALLY THE, THE GOAL OF ZONING AND THE GOAL OF, OF ISSUING PERMITS IS TO APPROVE AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER'S, YES OR NO.
UM, THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN SAYING TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, WE'RE GOING TO PROHIBIT YOU FROM AN OTHERWISE LAWFUL USE WITHOUT HAVING SEEN THAT THERE WAS A SPECIFIC PROBLEM WITH THAT BUSINESS OWNER.
SO I, I THINK THE LEGISLATOR'S, UH, COMMENT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDABLE.
I, I, I SEE THESE AS DISTINCT THINGS.
I SEE THIS AS A FUNDAMENTAL, UM, VIOLATION AND FRANKLY, EXTREMELY PERFORMATIVE GIVEN THAT WE HAVE NO CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED FACILITIES THAT ANYBODY'S ASKING FOR A PERMIT FOR, AND THAT WE WOULD'VE THE ABILITY TO, TO RESTRICT THE PERMIT IF THEY DID CHOOSE TO APPLY FOR IT.
SO, UM, IT FEELS LIKE AN ORDINANCE WITHOUT A HOME.
AND FINALLY, UM, MR. KAVINSKY, IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BOUGHT LAND OR TOOK EXISTING LAND THAT THEY OWN INSIDE OF JACKSON COUNTY AND DECIDED TO BUILD A DETENTION CENTER, DO, DO WE AS A COUNTY LEGISLATIVE BODY, HAVE THE RIGHT TO PREEMPT THEIR USE OF THAT FACILITY FOR THESE PURPOSES? YEAH, AGAIN, IT WOULD BE, UH, APPLICABLE TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, RIGHT? SO, SO IF AN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OWNS 40 ACRES AND THEY DECIDE TO PUT A BUILDING UP AND THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WANNA KEEP DETAINEES THERE, CAN WE STOP THEM THROUGH A COUNTY ORDINANCE? IF THEY, I DO THINK IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT THERE COULD BE LITIGATION TO SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE AND THE, AND THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE, THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM TO SAY, THIS IS GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.
WE'RE GONNA USE IT IN A LAWFUL MANNER IN ACCORDANCE WITH FEDERAL LAW AS WE SEE FIT.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT MORE, MORE IN DEPTH.
BUT WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE ZONING IN THE JACKSON COUNTY.
AND SO I DO FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT.
UM, FIRST I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AGAIN, WE THINK FOR THOSE WHO ARE STILL HERE, UH, WATCHING THIS PROCESS HAPPEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS, UH, A GREAT DISCUSSION FOR BOTH THE MUNICIPALITIES WHO'VE ALREADY DONE THIS, INCLUDING KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI, AND OTHERS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, TO DICTATE THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA ALLOW THE CAGING OF PEOPLE.
UM, I WANT TO SHARE, UM, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH, UH, VICE CHAIR SMITH MAY NOT BE AWARE, UM, I TOLD ME DIRECTLY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PURSUING SEVERAL OTHER LOCATIONS IN ADDITION TO THE ONE IN KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
UM, THEY ARE SEEKING A FACILITY THAT WILL HOLD 7,600 PEOPLE.
UH, ICE TURNS OVER BEDS AT LEAST EVERY 51 DAYS.
THAT IS 54,392 PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY DETAINED POTENTIALLY OVER A YEAR IN A FACILITY IN JACKSON COUNTY.
UM, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF POPULATION.
UM, THE REALITY THAT WAS SAID ABOUT THE POPULATION OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS EVEN PRESENT, WOULD NOT EXIST HERE.
THUS, WE'RE LOOKING AT REGIONALLY GRABBING FOLKS FROM THEIR HOMES, TAKING THEM FROM THEIR FAMILY, AND INCARCERATING THEM, UM, NOT DEPORTING THEM, QUICKLY, INCARCERATING THEM.
SO THE REALITY OF THIS SITUATION IS GOING TO BE OF MORAL, UH, SUGGESTION ON WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO FOCUS YOUR TIME ON.
A LOT OF FOLKS ARE MAKING JUSTIFICATIONS AS TO WHY NOT.
NO ONE YET HAS SEEMINGLY SAID, DO YOU STAND FOR THE CONCENTRATION OF 54,392
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PEOPLE? YES OR NO? THAT IS A REALITY.I WOULDN'T STAND FOR THAT FOR A JAIL, FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD QUOTE UNQUOTE BE CRIMINALS.
THE REALITY OF THIS SITUATION IS FAR WORSE THAN A CODE OR A ZONING ORDINANCE OR NOT.
THIS IS ABOUT WHAT WE BELIEVE DEMOCRACY WILL STAND ON OR FALL ON.
I WANNA REMIND US ABOUT THIS LITTLE PIECE.
NOT LIKE THE BRAZEN GIANT OF GREAT GREEK FAME WITH CONQUERING LIMBS DESTROYED FROM LAND TO LAND.
HERE AT OUR SEA WASH, SUNSET GATES SHALL STAND A MIGHTY WOMAN WITH THE TORCH, WHOSE FLAME IS THE IMPRISONED LIGHTING, AND HER NAME, MOTHER OF EXILES FROM HER BEACON HAND GLOWS WORLDWIDE, WELCOME HER MILD EYES COMMAND THE AIR BREATHED HARBOR THAT TWI CITY'S FRAME KEEP ANCIENT LANDS, YOUR STORIED PUMP CRY.
GIVE ME YOUR TIRED, YOUR PUR POOR, YOUR HURLED MASSES YEARNING TO BREATHE FREE.
THE WRETCHED REFUSE OF YOUR TEAMING SHORE.
SEND THESE, THE HOMELESS TEMPEST TOSSED TO ME.
I LIFT MY LAMP BESIDES THE GOLDEN DOOR.
THAT'S THE NEW COLOSSUS BY EMERAL LAZARUS FROM 1883.
THAT'S IMPENDED AND APART OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY, THE REALITY THAT IN 1883 WE HAD MORE HUMANITY AND DIGNITY OF PEOPLE COMING TO OUR COUNTRY THAN NOW IS ATROCIOUS.
I DON'T ASK YOU TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S NOT DUPLICATIVE OR BECAUSE IT'S NOT, UH, IMPUGNED TO LEGAL CHALLENGES.
I ASK YOU TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD INCARCERATE 54,392 PEOPLE IN JACKSON COUNTY, WHETHER THAT'S IN KANSAS CITY, IN INDEPENDENCE, AND ANYWHERE IN JACKSON COUNTY.
UNINCORPORATED OR NOT PLANNED OR ZONED OR NOT.
WE SHOULD NOT IMPRISON THAT QUANTITY OF PEOPLE, PERIOD.
THUS, I'LL ASK YOU TO VOTE FOR THIS MORATORIUM.
AND IF YOU DON'T, I HOPE THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO STAND UP AND ASK YOU TO DO IT, REMOVE YOU FROM OFFICE.
SO SHALL WE GO, SIR? NO, I'D LIKE TO RESPOND.
SO THE STATUE OF LIBERTY, UH, SITS IN CONJUNCTION WITH ELLIS ISLAND, A PLACE WHERE IMMIGRANTS CAME TO THE UNITED STATES TO BE LAWFULLY PROCESSED, TESTED FOR DISEASES, CHECKED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE SAFE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AT THE TIME, RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS AND UNDERSTAND IF THEY WERE COMING TO THE UNITED STATES TO BE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.
THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS WHERE WE HAD ESSENTIALLY, UH, A UNREGULATED OPEN BORDER THAT HAS RESULTED IN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ENTERING THE COUNTRY WITHOUT US KNOWING WHO THEY ARE AND THE LAW THAT ALLOWS US TO DEPORT THEM THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE AND ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING PROCESS.
LIKE WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS FOR SO MANY THINGS, NOT THROUGH THE FULL JUDICIAL PROCESS, UNLESS EXCEPTIONS EXIST FROM TIME TO TIME.
THESE ARE VERY DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND WHEN YOU SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BUILDING HERE THAT HOLDS PEOPLE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, WE WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE THIS HERE, WELL-REGULATED, WELL UNDERSTOOD, WELL MONITORED, AND INSTEAD LEAVE IT SOMEWHERE WITH LESS MORAL PEOPLE.
'CAUSE THE FACT IS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IF THEY NEED TO BUILD A FACILITY, WILL FIND A PLACE TO DO IT.
AND IF YOU'D RATHER HAVE THAT BE SOMEWHERE THAT'S FARTHER FROM CIVILIZATION, FARTHER FROM MONITORING, FARTHER FROM KEEPING AN EYE ON THINGS OUTSIDE OF OUR ZONING AND, AND ABILITY TO DEMAND WHAT THAT FACILITY NEEDS TO HAVE, WELL, THEN YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT, THAT YOU THINK THAT NOT HAVING THIS FACILITY HERE IS GONNA KEEP THOSE THINGS FROM HAPPENING THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED.
AND THE REALITY IS YOU'RE JUST GOING TO PUT IT FURTHER INTO RURAL AMERICA, SOMEPLACE WHERE THEY'RE HAPPY TO HAVE PROBABLY THOSE JOBS AND THOSE TEMPORARY FACILITIES, AND YOU'RE GOING TO PLACE PEOPLE MORE AT RISK.
WHEN WE LEGISLATE, WE HAVE TO THINK TO OURSELVES, WHAT IS THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF WHAT I'M SAYING AND DOING? AND THE FACT IS THAT PROHIBITING THESE FACILITIES PROACTIVELY.
FIRST OFF, I DISAGREE WITH OUR COUNTY COUNSELOR, AND THERE'S SEVERAL COURT CASES I WAS JUST ABLE TO FIND THAT INDICATE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT ON PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN, NO MATTER WHAT THE LOCAL ZONING ORDINANCES
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ARE.UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO JUST THE FACT THAT I THINK IF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE IT HAPPEN NEAR WHERE WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND HAVE SOME INFLUENCE OVER THE QUALITY AND VISIBILITY AS OPPOSED TO FURTHER AWAY.
I THINK YOU'RE PLACING PEOPLE MORE AT RISK FOR PERFORMATIVE POLITICS, CONSISTENT WITH SIMPLY TRYING TO PLACATE PEOPLE, WHEN IN REALITY WE NEED TO PASS RESPONSIBLE LEGISLATION THAT HELPS KEEP PEOPLE SAFER AND DOESN'T PRETEND TO DO THINGS THAT WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO.
COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, UH, LEGISLATORS, I JUST WANTED TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GOT A BACKGROUND CHECK IN 1896
THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS, IS THAT IT, IT, IT WILL NEVER STOP BECAUSE EVEN IF, LET'S SAY THEY BUILD IT HERE AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND BY GOLLY, AND, AND WE WANNA, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WATCH IT BY GOD, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.
DISTILL, THE SAME ARGUMENT WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN.
WELL, IT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WE HAVE NO WAY TO CHANGE IT WHATSOEVER.
SO THAT'S WHAT I ASKED MY FRIEND.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BUILT SOMETHING, IF THEY BUILT SOMETHING AND WE DIDN'T LIKE IT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? WHAT WOULD A LEGISLATIVE BODY DO IF THEY DON'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING, IF THEY DON'T HAVE RESTROOMS? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? WAITING TILL YOU'RE READY.
SO, OH, PLEASE, PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, SO, SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A COUNTY COUNSELOR TELLING US WE CAN REGULATE THINGS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF TRYING, AS OPPOSED TO IF THIS IS SOMETHING IN, I DON'T KNOW, LET'S SAY COOPER COUNTY, THEN WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY.
SO WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE SOMETHING EXIST THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE TO REGULATE AND IMPROVE? ALSO, WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE LOCAL MEDIA HERE.
WE HAVE ACTIVE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT IMMIGRANTS HERE.
IF WE GO FAR, FAR OUT INTO THE COUNTRY, WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THAT SAME LEVEL OF VISIBILITY IS GONNA HELP KEEP PEOPLE SAFE? AND THE ANSWER IS OBVIOUS.
THE ANSWER IS, IF WE SHIP THESE PEOPLE TO THE MOON, THEY'RE MUCH LESS SAFE THAN IF THEY'RE HERE.
IF WE SEND THEM TO COOPER COUNTY IN A DETENTION CENTER WHERE THERE'S VERY FEW PEOPLE KEEPING AN EYE OUT FOR THEIR SAFETY, IT'S WORSE.
AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANT BECAUSE THE POPULATION HAS GOTTEN WORKED UP ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE SEEN FOR THE MOST PART ON TV OR SOCIAL MEDIA.
BUT THE FACT IS THAT WHATEVER'S HAPPENING, IF YOU WANT IT TO HAPPEN IN THE COLD, HARSH LIGHT OF REALITY, THE CLOSER IT IS TO BEING IN A MEDIA MARKET WHERE PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION, THE BETTER, NOT THE WORST.
UM, AS TO THE QUESTION OF, OF, UM, HOW PEOPLE WERE VETTED, THEY, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION UPON THEIR, UH, ARRIVAL.
AND OFTEN THAT INCLUDED LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION FROM PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVED HERE.
OFTEN IT WAS FAMILIES THAT ESSENTIALLY VOUCHED FOR THEIR, THEIR PEERS.
NO, IT'S NOT PERFECT, JUST LIKE IT'S NOT PERFECT TODAY.
PEOPLE COME FROM PLACES THAT HAVE VERY LITTLE RECORD KEEPING, AND WE STILL ACCEPT THEM, BUT WE DO OUR BEST.
THE POINT IS, WHEN YOU JUST OPENED THE BORDER AND HAD NO VETTING, THEN YOU REALLY LEFT US IN A VERY BAD PLACE WHERE WE HAVE BAD PEOPLE WHO MIGHT DO BAD THINGS.
AND IF WE DON'T PROVIDE THE RESOURCES OR IF WE TRY TO RESTRICT THE RESOURCES OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEM THAT WAS CREATED, THEN WE ARE DOING OURSELVES A DISSERVICE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THEN I'M, I'M I JUST REALLY QUICKLY, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT LEGISLATOR ABOUT, UM, THAT SOMEBODY COULD FIND A LETTER WITH THEM FROM A FAMILY MEMBER, UH, TO HAND TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, AND THEY'LL LET YOU IN, UH, BECAUSE SOMEBODY VOUCHED FOR YOU.
ALSO, THERE WAS NO WAY TO VERIFY IF THOSE INDIVIDUALS JUST WROTE IT ON THE SHIP.
SO, UH, AND, AND ALSO WHAT I THINK IS QUITE INTERESTING IN THE NEXT BREATH, YOU SAY THAT, WELL, THIS CAN BE BUILT HERE.
AND AS WHAT OUR COUNTY COUNSELOR HAS SAID, UH, WE CAN HAVE CONTROL OVER THIS.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T SAY CONTROL.
WHAT DO WE DO THEN? IF SOMEONE BUILDS SOMETHING, WE DON'T LIKE IT.
WHAT IS THAT? WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER IT.
WELL, FIRST OFF, WE WOULD TRY TO USE OUR ZONING REQUIREMENTS, BUT YOU DISAGREE WITH IT AND OUR, AND OUR BUILDING REQUIREMENTS, YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT HE'S SAYING? NO, I DIDN'T SAY WE COULDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY REQUEST A ZONING PERMIT.
TELL US WHAT THE FACILITY'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
TELL US WHAT, TELL US WHAT ITS CHARACTERISTICS ARE, AND THEN MAKE A ZONING DECISION.
I THINK IF WE SAID NO, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAYBE COULD DO IT ANYWAY, BUT AT LEAST WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES BEFORE THEY JUST GO BUILD WHATEVER INHUMANE
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THING THAT YOU THINK THEY WANT TO GO BUILD.I, I, IT SEEMS OBVIOUS TO ME THAT WE WOULD RATHER HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SAY IN POTENTIALLY THAN NO SAY AT ALL.
AND A MORATORIUM JUST SAYS, DON'T BRING IT HERE, SEND IT SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE DON'T CARE.
YOU'RE SAYING, WE DON'T WANT IT HERE, SO I'M GONNA REC THEY DON'T.
SO WHAT I THINK IS INTERESTING IS THAT YOU MENTIONED COOPER COUNTY.
ARE YOU SAYING TO THE GOVERNMENT OF COOPER COUNTY, THEY DON'T CARE? I'M GIVING AN EXAMPLE.
I JUST DON'T NEED THAT FURTHER AWAY.
BUT WHAT THE WHOLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, LET'S BE HONEST HERE.
REPUBLICAN TACTICS ARE WHAT? BEING USED AN OPEN BORDER BY GOD, THEY WERE SENDING ALL OF THESE PEOPLE, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT.
WE CAN'T EVEN WALK OUTSIDE WITHOUT RUNNING INTO SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO JUST TAKE US OUT.
OH, AND YOU'RE ALSO INFLUENCED, YOU KNOW, YOUNG JALEN ANDERSON, YOU'RE INFLUENCED BY WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS.
YOU'RE INFLUENCED BY WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS.
YOU'RE INFLUENCED BY WHAT THEY'VE SEEN ON TV.
THANK GOD WE HAVE PHONES NOW, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WITNESSED ON A PHONE IS THAT AN INDIVIDUAL BEING SHOT BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF SOMEBODY ELSE.
WE HAVE THIS ABILITY TO SEE THAT WHEN A CHILD IS TAKEN INTO A FACILITY AND NOT GIVEN MEDICAL CARE OR THE INDIVIDUAL FROM ARIZONA WHO'S TAKEN IN WITHOUT MEDICAL CARE OR THIS US CITIZEN THAT'S TAKEN IN BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SIN SKIN, THANK GOD, I WILL SAY, THANK GOD WE CAN SEE IT.
THANK GOD PEOPLE ARE OUTRAGED BECAUSE YOU SHOULD BE.
IT IS NOT THIS IDEA OF, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST SIT BACK AND, AND WILL BE ABLE TO CONTROL ALL THIS AND WILL BE ABLE TO DO ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS.
THE PEOPLE HAVE THE ACCESS TO FILM ANYTHING AT ANY TIME, AT ANY POINT.
SO LET'S GET AROUND THIS WHOLE IDEA OF THAT.
WELL, WE WOULD BE ALONG WITH THIS.
WE WOULD BE THE COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE IF WE COULD JUST DO IT HERE.
THEY HAVE PLENTY, LOTS MORE MONEY THAN THIS COUNTY DOES.
WHAT DO THEY HAVE? WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN ABLE TO STOP? NOTHING.
SO WHY WOULD WE LET THE WEREWOLF INTO THE HOUSE? WHY WOULD WE LET THESE PEOPLE COME AFTER ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, WHY DO WE SAY, WELL, WE TRIED, WE LET 'EM ON IN HERE, BUT IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT.
BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE A MEDIUM MARKET.
AT LEAST WE HAVE A POSSIBILITY OF LAWS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAY.
SOMEBODY COMES UP HERE AND SAYS, OH, DON'T WORRY, DON'T WORRY.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET YOU MEDICAL CARE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO, TO, UH, HAVE AIR CONDITIONING, TO HAVE HEAT, TO HAVE AN ACTUAL SPACE TO LIVE IN.
NOT TREAT IT JUST LIKE CATTLE OR WORSE THAN CATTLE.
BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS? THEY GO OUT AND THEY DO THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE.
GOVERNMENT PEOPLE LIE TO GOVERNMENT AND THIS BODY ALL THE TIME.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, UM, I'M DONE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, LEGISLATOR SMITH.
UM, I'LL JUST START BY SAYING I, I DO PLAN TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE, UH, PRIMARILY FOR THE REASON THAT THE COUNCIL JUST STATED WITH, UM, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ONLY IMPACTS THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
UM, AND WE DO HAVE, UH, PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU RIGHT, MR. KAVINSKI, UH, SOME SORT OF LEGAL STANDING IF THAT WERE TO EVER HAPPEN IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
SO FOR THAT REASON, I, I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT GET TO Q WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH QUOTING LAZARUS AND THE STATUE OF LIBERTY.
BECAUSE JUST AS A, A HISTORICAL REMINDER SINCE RECITING HISTORY DURING THAT TIME, THERE WAS PEOPLE WHO LOOKED LIKE ME, WHO WERE JUST FRESH OUT OF EMANCIPATION AND DEALING WITH JIM CROW, WHO WERE NOT WELCOME IN THIS COUNTRY AND WHO WEREN'T BROUGHT, BROUGHT HERE THROUGH IMMIGRATION.
RATHER, IT WAS FORCED ENSLAVEMENT AND FORCED MIGRATION.
SO I, UM, WE SHOULD TREAD LIGHTLY WHEN WE START QUOTING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UM, I'VE SERVED FOR 20 YEARS IN THIS COUNTRY.
I'VE SEEN DETENTION CENTERS, I'VE SEEN THE FLAWS IN THEM.
UM, OUR COUNTRY WAS JUST AS MUCH FLAW THEN AS IT'S NOW.
SO, UM, I JUST WANNA STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD, BUT I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS ORDINANCE.
ANY OTHER COMMENT, QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT.
UH, MAYOR JO, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
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I DIDN'T GET THE MOVER AND SECONDER ON THE MOVE.WAIT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? THERE'S AN OBJECTION.
WAIT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? MOTION TO ADOPT.
WE ARE WE STILL ON 60 61? YES.
WE ALREADY, WE OH, WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY PERFECTED IT.
I THOUGHT WITH THE VOICE VOTE.
SO, UH, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU REMIND US, UH, WHAT AN OBJECTION DICTATES OBJECTION WOULD, WOULD THEN MEAN THAT THEY NEED SIX VOTES TO ADOPT.
SO THERE'S A MOTION TO SECOND, UM, FOR ADOPTION.
AND ANY DISCUSSION? YOU WERE THE SECOND.
UH, MARY JO, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
WE'LL BE SENDING THAT TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE FOR SIGNATURE.
[AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 161.00± acre tract from District AGp (Agricultural Planned) to District AG (Agricultural).]
[AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 4.87± acre tract from District AG (Agricultural) to District RE (Residential Estates).]
[AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 10.00± acre tract from District AG (Agricultural) to District RR (Residential Ranchette).]
[AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 3.05± acre tract from District B (Two Family) to District LI (Light Industrial).]
[AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 9.75± acre tract from District LB (Local Business) to District LI (Light Industrial).]
OR MR. CHAIRMAN? YEAH.UH, I RE I, UH, MOVE THAT WE WAIVE THE READING ON 6 0 6 4 THROUGH 6 0 6 8.
AND THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON ALL OF THOSE ON MARCH THE 23RD AT ONE O'CLOCK.
ALL RIGHT, I'LL SECOND THE WAIVING.
MARY JO, WOULD YOU, YOU COULD JUST DO BY VOICE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY THE SIGN OF AYE.
[7 FINAL PASSAGE OF PROPOSED ORDINANCES]
[AN ORDINANCE establishing a third-party monitoring program for Jackson County projects and authorizing access for qualified contracted third parties to conduct site visits.]
OF PROPOSED ORDINANCES, 6 0 4 9.ESTABLISHING A THIRD PARTY MONITORING PROGRAM FOR JACKSON COUNTY PROJECTS AND AUTHORIZING ACCESS FOR QUALIFIED CONTRACTED THIRD PARTIES TO CONDUCT SITE VISITS PERFECTED.
HEARING NONE, UM, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, WE'LL HOLD, UH,
[8 RESOLUTIONS IN COMMITTEE]
[A RESOLUTION approving the 2026-2027 Jackson County Assessment and Equalization Maintenance Plan.]
RESOLUTIONS AND COMMITTEE 2, 2, 1 4 9 APPROVING THE 20 26, 20 27 JACKSON COUNTY ASSESSMENT AND EQUALIZATION MAINTENANCE PLAN, LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE.UH, THERE IS NO REPORT FROM COMMITTEE.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR GUIDANCE ON THE DIRECTION FOR THIS LEGISLATION? I DRAFTED, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND SEND IT TO THE COUNTY COUNSELOR'S OFFICE LATE LAST WEEK.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE HAD TIME TO FULLY VET THAT AND TAKE CARE OF IT YET.
MOVED TO HOLD OR SECOND TO HOLD.
WE'LL HOLD, UH, 2 2 1 5 0 48 36
[A RESOLUTION awarding a thirty-month term and supply contract, with three twenty-four-month options to extend, for the furnishing of information technology products and services for use by various County departments to SHI International Corporation, of Somerset, NJ under the terms and conditions of OMNIA Partners Contract Number 2024056-02, an existing competitively bid government contract.]
MONTH, I'M SORRY.AWARDING A 30 MONTH TERM AND SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH 3 24 MONTH OPTION TO EXTEND FOR THE FURNISHING OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, PRODUCTS AND SERVICES FOR USE BY VARIOUS COUNTY DEPARTMENTS TO SHI INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION OF SOMERSET, NEW JERSEY UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF OMNIA PARTNERS.
CONTRACT NUMBER 2 0 2 4 0 5 6 DASH ZERO TWO.
AN EXISTING COMPETITIVELY BIG GOVERNMENT CONTRACT, PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET TODAY.
I UNDERSTAND LEGISLATIVE FRANKLIN MIGHT HAVE A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW, OR, I'M SORRY, NOT WITHDRAW.
YEAH, TAKE IT OUT IF YOU NEED.
CHARLIE, HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
CHARLIE, CHARLIE, HEARING NONE.
CHARLIE, SHOULD WE WHISPER? CHARLIE? CHARLIE, YOU'RE KEEPING IT.
YEAH, I GUESS WE'LL HOLD AT THIS POINT.
[A RESOLUTION authorizing the Prosecuting Attorney to execute a one-year agreement with the City of Grain Valley, with one twelve-month option to extend, to engage in anti-crime, anti-violence, and law enforcement school-based initiatives and purposes, at a cost to the County not to exceed $75,000.00.]
AUTHORIZING THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GREEN VALLEY WITH ONE 12 MONTH OPTION TO EXTEND, TO ENGAGE IN ANTI-CRIME, ANTI-VIOLENCE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, SCHOOL-BASED INITIATIVES AND PURPOSES.IT'LL COST THE COUNTY NOT TO EXCEED $75,000 ANTI-CRIME COMMITTEE REPORT FROM COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS ADOPTION.
UH, WE'LL ADVANCE, UM, THAT AS, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA.
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LEMME EXCUSE ONE.[A RESOLUTION authorizing the Chair of the Jackson County Drug Task Force to execute a Legal Services Agreement with Williams & Campo, P.C., of Lee’s Summit, MO, to provide legal services for the Task Force, at a cost to the County not to exceed $3,500.00.]
YOU.AUTHORIZING THE CHAIR OF THE JACKSON COUNTY DRUG TASK FORCE TO EXECUTE A LEGAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH WILLIAMS AND CAMPO PC OF LEE SUMMIT, MISSOURI TO PROVIDE LEGAL SERVICES FOR THE TASK FORCE AT A COST THE COUNTY NOT TO EXCEED $3,500.
ANTI-CRIME COMMITTEE REPORT FROM, UH, COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS ADOPTION.
WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, WE'LL ADVANCE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[A RESOLUTION authorizing the County Counselor to execute a Legal Services Agreement with certain lawyers and law firms at an aggregate cost to the County not to exceed $50,000.00.]
AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO EXECUTE A LEGAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH CERTAIN LAWYERS AND LAW FIRMS AT AN AGGREGATE COST OF THE COUNTY NOT TO EXCEED $50,000.UM, THE COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET.
THERE IS A REQUEST, UM, TO DISCHARGE THIS, UM, AS THE SPONSOR.
MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO DISCHARGE, UH, THIS FROM COMMITTEE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION? UM, I, UH, IF I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL THROW IT TO GENERAL COUNSEL OR ADMINISTRATION TO TALK ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE A RESOLUTION.
THIS RESOLUTION IS TO HIRE GRADE COUNSEL ALLISON BERGMAN, TO HELP WITH SOME CHAPTER 100 TAX INCENTIVE LEGAL ISSUES.
IT HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA FOR THREE WEEKS, MAYBE, UH, AWAITING A COMMITTEE HEARING.
UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST, I THINK, FROM AT LEAST OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO ADD THE LEGISLATURE AS A MEANS OF WHO CAN UTILIZE HER ADVISEMENT.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDED AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OR IS THERE, I I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD EVEN NEED AN AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT ALL JUST GOES THROUGH THE COUNTY COUNSELOR.
SO JUST, UM, HE WOULD DIRECT WHATEVER WORK THE LEGISLATURE NEEDS, IN MY OPINION.
BUT YEAH, I, I'M NOT, SAY THAT AGAIN, I'M SORRY.
SO, IN THE ORDINANCE OR IN THE RESOLUTION, IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY THAT THE, UH, MS. BERGMAN'S LAW FIRM WOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE TO BOTH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND GENERAL COUNSEL, EXCLUDING THE LEGISLATURE.
I THINK THAT WAS A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION THAT WE ADD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUEST FROM HER WHAT FEEDBACK SHE PROVIDES.
SO IT DIRECTLY IS OPPOSED TO THROUGH ANYONE'S OFFICE, WE, WE PUT THIS BOARD BASED ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S REQUEST.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY ARE THE EXECUTIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S UP TO WHAT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WOULD LIKE TO DO.
MR. CHAIR, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD THE WORDS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
WE HAVEN'T BEEN SPOKEN IN THIS COURTHOUSE FOR A LOT.
UM, THIS ATTORNEY IS SPECIALIZED IN THAT, UH, CHAPTER 100 AND LEARN IS A VERY GOOD VEHICLE.
AND MS. BERGMAN'S FIRM IS, UH, VERY GOOD AT THAT.
UM, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WHEN WE ASKED TO, TO HIRE THIS FIRM, ANY OF THAT EXCLUDED THE LEGISLATURE IN ANY FEEDBACK THAT THIS LAW FIRM WOULD GIVE US IN ANY ADVICE THAT GIVE US IN MOVING FORWARD ON ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, I, I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL, UH, LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF ME.
I DON'T, I I HOPE IT DOESN'T EXCLUDE OR SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE IT.
IF IT DOES, I WOULD ASK FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE THE LEGISLATURE, UH, IS I, NOW I HAVE THE, THE COUNTY COUNCIL WOULD SAY THE AGENT, THAT, THAT WOULD REPORT TO MY OFFICE AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL'S OFFICE.
AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS ALSO YOUR LAWYER ALSO.
UH, SO I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING TO EXCLUDE IT, BUT LET ME GO ON RECORD, MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T WANT ANY, UH, COUNSEL TO COME IN AND EXCLUDE THE LEGISLATURE FROM ANY SORT OF THEIR FEEDBACK OR CONTACT.
I THINK IN, IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD, LIKE WHEN WE DID THE, UM, THE GENERAL CONTRACT FOR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE STADIUMS, WE JUST LISTED ALL THREE.
THAT WAY THERE WAS NO DISCRETION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, OR, OR NOT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE UNDER DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME CHALLENGES WITH WHO, WHAT WORKED FOR AND THAT INTEREST.
I THINK SINCE IT'S SUCH A SMALL CHANGE, YOU CAN JUST MOVE TO AMEND TO ADD THE WORD COUNTY LEGISLATURE.
WHEREVER IT LISTS THE OTHER TWO.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT.
ARE WE ADOPTING AN AMENDMENT? YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT AN AMENDMENT.
ARE WE DOING AN AMENDMENT OR WE HAVE HAD THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, UM, MAKE A STATEMENT THAT ON THE RECORD, THAT WE WOULD NOT BE EXCLUDED JUST AS WE ARE NOT AS EXCLUDED WITH OUR COUNTY COUNCIL.
OR DO WE NEED AN AMENDMENT? I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADD THE COUNTY LEGISLATURE TO THIS.
ALRIGHT, YOU SECOND, MOVE IN SECOND.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND 2 2 1 16 0 TO ADD THE LEGISLATURE AS A PART OF THE GROUP THAT THIS ATTORNEY WOULD ENGAGE WITH.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY SIGN OF AYE.
I THINK THE AYES HAVE IT, BUT JUST IN CASE.
ARE THERE ANY NAYS? I DON'T HEAR ANY SO.
WE'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT AS AMENDED.
IT'S BEEN MOVED TO ADOPT AS AMENDMENT.
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MR. CHAIR.HAVE, AND, UH, MR. BARCA, CAN I GIVE THIS BACK TO YOU? ARE YOU DONE? OKAY.
AND THEN YOU COULD, UH, LEGISLATIVE SMITH, HAS THE MOTION BEEN MADE TO DISCHARGE THIS FOR FROM COMMITTEE? 'CAUSE WE'RE MAKING AMENDMENTS OR SOMETHING THAT'S STUCK IN COMMITTEE.
WE HAVEN'T DISCHARGED THIS FROM COMMITTEE YET.
AND WE'RE MAKING AMENDMENTS ON SOMETHING THAT IS STUCK IN COMMITTEE.
SO PROCEDURALLY WE SHOULD DISCHARGE IT FIRST, MAKE AMENDMENTS AND THEN PROCEED WITH ADOPTION.
THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DISCHARGE.
WAS THERE NOT, NOT A VOTE, NO.
SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO DISCHARGE FROM COMMITTEE
I'M GONNA PRETEND I'M STILL THE CHAIR 'CAUSE I THINK THAT WAS MY MISS.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO DISCHARGE, UH, FROM THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE.
RESOLUTION 2, 2 1 6 0 BY SIGN OF AYE.
ALL THOSE NOT IN FAVOR OF DISCHARGING FROM COMMITTEE HEARING NONE.
SIX ZERO IS DISCHARGED FROM COMMITTEE.
AND JUST TO DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S.
IS THERE A MOTION TO AMEND TO INCLUDE THE LEGISLATURE, MR. CHAIRMAN, NOW THAT IT'S BEEN DISCHARGED? MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
MR. STR, UM, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS ADDED IN ALONG WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND THE COUNSELOR'S OFFICE.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND IT AS PER MR. ANDERSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY SIGN? AYE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT AS AMENDED.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO ADOPT THE AS AMENDED AND, AND NOW FOR DISCUSSION.
AND, AND MY, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THANK YOU BY THE WAY, LEGISLATOR, UH, MEGAN SMITH FOR CATCHING THAT WE HADN'T DISCHARGED IT.
SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, DID WE DO ANY KIND OF A FORMAL SELECTION PROCESS OR BID PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHICH ATTORNEY TO HIRE FOR THIS PURPOSE? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO KIND OF SPECIALIZE IN CHAPTER 100.
THIS IS A, A, A A FIRM THAT WE HAVE HAD CONTRACTS WITH BEFORE AND THEY'RE SPECIALIZED IN THIS IS A FIRM WHO WE CHOSE TO GO WITH.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST A PERSONAL CONCERN FOR ME THAT WE JUST PICK SOMEBODY THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH BEFORE AND DIDN'T DO ANY KIND OF SELECTION PROCESS.
I KNOW FROM TIME TO TIME THAT'S NECESSARY.
WHEN THINGS ARE URGENT, IS THERE A SPECIFIC URGENCY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THAT YOU CAN, UH, TELL ME YES OR NO? AND THEN IF SO, IS IT AN URGENCY THAT YOU CAN DISCLOSE WITHOUT CREATING A PROBLEM? NOT AN URGENCY.
UH, ATTORNEY AND LAW FIRMS BASED ON EXPERIENCE AND CERTAIN ISSUES ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE CONTRACTING.
AND IT'S, IT'S NOT APPLES TO ORANGES.
UM, THIS FIRM HAS BEEN PRODUCTIVE IN THIS, HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS.
UM, THIS IS THE FIRM THAT WE CHOSE TO GO WITH AND, AND THE FIRM NAME YOU MENTIONED A LAWYER'S NAME.
IS THAT THE FIRM NAME? THE FIRM NAME IS SPECIFICALLY GRID COUNSEL, GRAY GRID, GID.
SO WE'RE CONTRACTING WITH THAT FIRM, BUT WE NAMED A PARTICULAR, IT'S A SOLO FIRM INDIVIDUAL.
UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, IT'S A CONCERN FOR ME THAT WE ARE DOING A NO BID CONTRACT FOR $50,000 FOR AN ATTORNEY THAT OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY KNOWS AND WE'VE DONE BUSINESS WITH IN THE PAST.
I, UM, I KNOW THAT WE DO THIS FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT IF THERE'S NO URGENCY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULDN'T HAVE, UM, SOUGHT BIDS FROM QUALIFIED PARTICIPANTS.
SO I, I WOULD JUST SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN, UH, ANY SORT OF OTHER BID PROCESS.
UM, THEY'RE INTANGIBLES THAT AS THE ACCOUNT EXECUTIVE, I NEED TO CHOOSE SOMEONE THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE EXACT SAME WAY THIS LEGISLATURE WOULD CHOOSE AND HAS CHOSEN LAW FIRMS IN THE PAST THAT THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH.
DO YOU WANNA GIVE GENERAL COUNSEL YOUR OPINIONS ON WELL, THE SELECTION OF, NO, MY QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY RELATED TO THE AMENDMENT.
I'M LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE HERE AND IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY LIST THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ANYWHERE.
SO I WASN'T SURE WHERE YOU WANTED IT TO SAY COUNTY LEGISLATURE, UNLESS I'M YEAH.
NOT LOOKING AT SHE SHOULD SAY IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH, AND MAYBE I'M LOOK OBVIOUSLY ON A PHONE, SO MAYBE I'M MISSING IT.
I JUST WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU WANT IT.
JUST TO CLARIFY, DID THE GENERAL COUNSEL WANNA PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR A SELECTION OF YOUR OWN LEGAL ADVISORS TOLD IN HERE? WHAT I'M AFRAID THAT, WHICH, SORRY, WHICH PARAGRAPH DID YOU WANT IN? I'M WORKING ON THAT PART.
BUT YOU WANNA GIVE THE OPINION ON THE SELECTION OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S OPINION ON, UH, LEGAL ADVISORS.
SORRY, I DON'T THINK I HEARD THE QUESTION.
Y YOU, YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE YOUR LEGAL ADVISORS THIRD PARTY COUNSEL, DO YOU? NOT ACTUALLY.
IT, UH, LEGISLATOR SMITH IS CORRECT, BUT WHEN TIME
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IS OF THE ESSENCE, MANY TIMES WE CAN'T GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.AND IT IS DISCRETIONARY THEN TO NOT DO IT THAT WAY.
AND IN THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE, UH, IT WAS CONVEYED TO US THAT, UH, THIS FIRM, THE GRID COUNCIL, WAS SPECIFICALLY INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THEY HAD WORKED WITH THEM PREVIOUSLY.
IS WAS, I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE EXCLUSIVITY OF THE WORK.
IS THAT A SOLE SOURCE OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S BEYOND NORMAL UNIQUENESS? IT'S NOT A SO SOURCE.
I MEAN, THE SOLE SOURCE IS, IS SOMETHING WHEN IT'S A UNIQUE PRACTICE.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING LEGAL PROFESSION, YOU WANT TO WORK WITH SOMEONE WHO YOU TRUST AND WHO YOU HAVE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST.
AND SO I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE SOLE SOURCE IS NECESSARILY APPLICABLE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH SOMEONE WHO IS REPRESENTING THE COUNTY.
YOU WANT SOMEONE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH, JUST AS AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD WANT SOMEBODY THAT THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH.
I I WOULD SAY WE COULD SAY, I WOULDN'T SAY BE TRUE OF A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
WHY WOULDN'T THE SAME BE TRUE OF PICKING A JANITORIAL SUPPLY VENDOR? I, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND LAWYERS KNOW LAWYERS, AND THAT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE A LAWYER AS A COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND WE, WE HAVE A COUNTY COUNSELOR'S OFFICE.
I, I JUST, I THINK THAT OUR PROCUREMENT POLICIES ARE PUT IN PLACE, UM, BOTH TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY AND FAVORITISM AS WELL AS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE, SINCE WE'RE SPENDING THE PUBLIC'S MONEY, WE ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF DOING BUSINESS WITH AS MANY PEOPLE OF THE PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE.
OTHERWISE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY CREATING AN EXCLUSIVE CLUB.
IF I KNOW SOMEBODY AT THE COUNTY, I MIGHT GET TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, I, SO I'M REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS THE MORE I HEAR.
SO I WILL SAY THE CODE SPECIFICALLY CARVES OUT LEGAL SERVICES FOR THAT REASON.
I I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT AN EXPLICIT VIOLATION IN TERMS OF OUR CODE.
I'M SAYING IF THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC REASON, MORE SO THAN I KNOW THE PERSON THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THEM, THAT IT MAKES ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE SAID THEY'D KNOW THE PERSON LEGISLATIVE SMITH.
AND THIS IS WHY WE COME BEFORE THIS BODY AND THIS BODY GETS TO APPROVE THAT IF THEY WANT, DON'T LIKE THE COUNSEL THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING THIS BODY CAN VOTE THAT DOWN, BUT AT SOME POINT, LEGAL SERVICE ARE NOT LIKE JANITORIAL SERVICES.
THEY'RE NOT LIKE CONSTRUCTION.
THOSE ARE MEASURABLE THINGS TO DO.
LEGAL COUNSEL IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO PUT THE TRUST OF FAITH IN THE, THE, UH, REPUTATION AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT SOMEONE HAS.
YOU CAN'T JUST BID OUT, WELL, YOU COULD JUST BID OUT FOR LAWYERS.
YOU GET A FIRST YEAR LAWYER, COME OUT WITH CHEAPER.
AND THAT'S NOT HOW I WANT TO CHOOSE WHEN I'M REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF WHO I'M HAVING TO HIRE THIS, I WANNA HAVE SOMEONE THAT I, THAT HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO WORK IN CHAPTER 100 THING.
SO IT'S MY POSITION TO BRING IT TO YOU.
UM, IT'S YOUR POSITION TO REVIEW IT AND REVIEW THIS FIRM.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
UM, BUT, BUT THIS LEGAL ISSUES ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESSES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO EVALUATE IT ACROSS THE BOARD ON THE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION AND JANITORIAL PROVIDING A, A LAWYER IS NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND SO THAT'S MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT, THAT THIS FIRM WOULD BE GOOD.
THE, THE PROFESSIONAL OPINION OF THE COUNTY COUNSELORS.
I'VE NEVER WORKED WITH THIS CA THIS ATTORNEY BEFORE, BUT I KNOW WHAT SHE DOES.
SO, UH, IT SHOULD NOT BE SOMETHING YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH.
I UNDERSTAND FROM AN OVERVIEW.
IT IS, BUT THIS IS WHY I BRING THIS TO THIS LEGISLATURE FOR YOUR REVIEW ON THIS SPECIFIC AGENDA.
AND, AND IN PARTICULAR THE FACT THAT IT WAS ASSIGNED TO A COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YET.
UM, OFTENTIMES IF WE'RE HEARING FROM A VENDOR, THAT'S WHEN WE DO IT, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE DISCHARGING IT FROM THE OR WE HAVE DISCHARGED IT FROM THE COMMITTEE.
UM, AND, AND JUST DIDN'T AVAIL OURSELVES OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I'M, I'M JUST SAYING IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO CONVINCE MY COLLEAGUES TO PASS OR NOT PASS THIS.
I'M JUST SAYING FOR, FOR ME, IF THERE'S NO URGENCY AND THERE WAS NO KIND OF BROAD NET CAST, WHETHER IT'S FOR SOMEBODY WE'RE HIRING OR FOR, IN THIS CASE, HIRING AN ATTORNEY, THAT, THAT JUST CONCERNS ME.
I I KNOW WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR A NEW ATTORNEY FOR ASSESSMENT, UM, I HAD SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE THE PERSON DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT BACKGROUND.
BUT THAT WAS THE PERSON WE COULD FIND WILLING TO DO THE WORK, AND ULTIMATELY WE APPROVED IT.
BUT THAT WAS AFTER SOME DISCUSSION AND SOME OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE WERE REALLY USING THE PUBLIC'S MONEY FOR THE, FOR THE PERSON WHO WAS THE BEST FIT, UM, AND AVAILABLE AND WILLING.
UM, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT JANITORIAL SERVICES.
I I GET ALL THAT, BUT, UH, IT JUST, IT STRIKES ME THAT, THAT WE SKIPPED THE PROCESS.
UM, AND IF YOU SAID, WELL, IF WE DON'T, WE HAVE TO BE IN COURT NEXT WEEK FOR X, Y, Z OR WE MIGHT LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS TO WORK WITH US ON THESE CHAPTER 100 THINGS.
I, I'D SAY, OKAY, MAYBE THERE'S A REASON.
BUT NOW WE'RE JUST URGENT BECAUSE I I, I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE URGENCY, GIVEN THAT WE KINDA SKIPPED THE PROCESS
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JUST TO RESPOND.WE MET WITH THIS FIRM IN TALKING ABOUT CHAPTER ONE HUNDREDS OVER A MONTH AGO.
AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO WORK ON SOME PROJECTS AND WE'VE BEEN WAITING TO GET IT IN FRONT OF THIS BODY.
SO I, THE, IF, IF YOU NEEDED ANOTHER WEEK TO DO SOMETHING, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I I WAS HOPING WE COULD GET THIS MOVING.
WE GET THIS FIRM ON BOARD AND START, UH, EXPLORING SOME OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE FOR THE COUNTY TO RAISE SOME REVENUE.
I'M NOT AGAINST THIS SITTING HERE FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR SO, BUT, UH, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD HAVE ANY, UH, ISSUES WITH IT.
BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH, I CAN DEFINITELY INFORM THE, THE FIRM THAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE COMMITTEE.
UM, I, I, I WANT YOU TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DECISIONS THAT I'M MAKING FROM MY OFFICE THAT I'M BRINGING TO YOU.
UM, BUT THE, THERE SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT CONCERNS YOU.
WE'RE NOT IN COURT TOMORROW, BUT WE WANNA MOVE ON THESE ISSUES.
AND WE'VE, UH, MET WITH THIS FIRM FOR OVER A WEEK.
I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, OVER A MONTH AND THEY'RE READY TO GO ON IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? YES.
UM, I WOULD THAT INQUIRE OF, UH, COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION, UH, BECAUSE LIKE THE VICE CHAIR, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IMPROPRIETY AS WELL.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL LISTED WITH THIS FIRM HAS POLITICAL TIES TO SOLICITING SITTING LEGISLATORS, INCLUDING CAMPAIGN DONATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT? ARE YOU INQUIRING OF ME? YES.
I WAS ASKING IF YOU ARE AWARE WHAT COUNSEL'S AWARE I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS FIRM BEING INVOLVED IN ANYBODY IN THE LEGISLATURE.
WELL, I THINK THAT, THAT THAT DESERVES, UH, FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
UM, AND CONSIDERING THAT THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS IN THE PAST, UM, BOTH WITH THIS LEADERSHIP AND THE LEADERSHIP FROM LAST YEAR, THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT NO BID CONTRACTS, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW THAT SAME SCRIPT WITH ANY CONTRACT THAT WE'RE BIDDING OUT.
UM, 'CAUSE JUST BY LOOKING AT THIS CONTRACT, THERE'S NO CLEAR SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EXPECTED, UH, COMMUNICATION SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE EXPECTED THROUGHOUT THIS NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND THAT'S CONCERNING CONSIDERING EVERYTHING ELSE I JUST MENTIONED.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF ANY MEMBER OF THIS LEGISLATURE HAD ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH AN ATTORNEY IN A GIVEN CAMPAIGN DONATIONS, THEY WOULD ABSTAIN.
SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO, BUT I HAVE THE UTMOST FAITH IN THE PEOPLE IN THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY THAT THEY WOULD NOT VOTE IF THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AT ALL.
THIS FIRM WAS BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THE COUNTY BEFORE AND THE EXPERIENCE THEY'VE DONE IN THIS REALM AND THIS ACTUALLY AREA OF THE LAW.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY COMPETENT IN THAT.
IS THERE A SECOND WE CAN HOLD UNTIL WE INVESTIGATE? SECOND SPEND MOVED AND SECONDED.
WE'LL HOLD ORDINANCE IN LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE.
UM, I'M SORRY, I LOST MY PLACE THERE.
2 2 1 6 0 WILL BE HELD IN LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE.
[A RESOLUTION awarding a contract for the furnishing of items for resale by the Parks + Rec Department to Dunlop Sports of Dallas, TX, as proprietary purchases.]
AWARDING A CONTRACT FOR THE FURNISHING OF ITEMS FOR RESELL BY THE PARKS PLUS REC DEPARTMENT OF DUNLOP SPORTS OF DALLAS, TEXAS AS A PROPRIETARY, AS PROPRIETARY PURCHASES PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET.[A RESOLUTION awarding a twelve-month contract, with three twelve-month options to extend, for the furnishing of independent auditing services for use by the Finance and Purchasing Department to Clifton Larsen Allen, LLP, of Kansas City, MO, under the terms and conditions of Request for Proposals No. 25-053, at a cost to the County for 2026 not to exceed $150,000.00.]
AWARD, A 12 MONTH CONTRACT WITH THREE 12 MONTH OPTIONS TO EXTEND FOR THE FURNISHING OF INDEPENDENT AUDITING SERVICES FOR USE BY THE FINANCE AND PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO CLIFTON LARSON, ALLEN, LLP OF KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI, UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS NUMBER 25 DASH 53.AND IT COST THE COUNTY FOR 2026 NOT TO EXCEED $150,000 FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE.
UM, THE COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET.
UM, THERE IS AN EFFORT TO HOLD THIS, ALTHOUGH I THINK THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS ASKED FOR US TO REMOVE THIS.
I I I'LL YIELD TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IF HE WANTS TO JUSTIFY AND ADVOCATE FOR THAT EFFORT OR IF WE CAN HOLD IT FOR ANOTHER WEEK.
UH, WILL BE, IT WILL BE HELD 2 2 1 7 0.
[A RESOLUTION awarding a contract for the purchase of a deep core aerifier for use by the Parks + Rec Department for the Fred Arbanas Golf Course to Redexim North America, Inc. of Valley Park, MO, under the terms and conditions of invitation to Bid No. 25-055 at a cost to the County not to exceed $52,541.00.]
WE'RE IN CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF A DEEP CORE AIRIER FOR USE BY THE PARK PLUS REC DEPARTMENT.TWO FOR THE FRED URBANA GOLF COURSE TO SOME NORTH AMERICA INC.
VALLEY PARK, MISSOURI, UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF INVITATION HAVE BEEN NUMBER 25 DASH FIVE FIVE AT COST THE COUNTY NOT TO EXCEED $52,541.
SO THIS WILL BE HELD 2 2 1 7 1
[A RESOLUTION awarding a contract for the furnishing of two (2) Ford F-600 trucks with installed snowplow packages for use by the Public Works Department to Viking-Cives Midwest of Morley, MO, under the terms and conditions set forth in Sourcewell Contract No. 062222-VCM, an existing, competitively bid government contract, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $287,050.00]
AWARD, A CONTRACT FOR THE FURNISHING OF TWO FORD F 600 TRUCKS AND INSTALLED SNOW SNOWPLOW PACKAGES FOR USED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO VIKING THIEVES MIDWEST OF MORLEY, MISSOURI UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET FORTH INABLE CONTRACT NUMBER 0 6 2 2 2 2 VCM AND EXISTING COMPETITIVELY, BIG GOVERNMENT CONTRACT AND ACTUAL COST THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $287,050 PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.UH, THE COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET.
[A RESOLUTION recognizing honorarium payments to community volunteers who assisted in the evaluation of non-profit grant applications.]
RECOGNIZING THE HONORARIUM PAYMENTS TO COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS WHO ASSISTED IN THE EVALUATION OF NONPROFIT GRANT APPLICATIONS,[02:40:01]
LEGISLATURES A WHOLE MOVE TO ADOPT.ANY DISCUSSION? THERE'S NO OBJECTION.
UM, AND THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE NEED SIX VOTES AT THIS POINT FOR RESOLUTION.
I'M JUST NOT CLEAR ON WHAT AN OBJECTION FOR RESOLUTION DOES.
IS THERE ANYBODY WANNA CLARIFY? ALL RIGHT, MR. KAVINSKY, YOU TAKE THE VOTE AT THAT TIME, JUDGE, DO YOU NOT? YEAH.
RATHER THAN WAIT UNTIL THE CONFRONT AGENDA.
UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT WE WILL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR POINT OF INFORMATION? UH, NO.
TWO THIRDS MAJORITY NEEDED FRONT.
'CAUSE THERE'S AN OBJECTION, CORRECT.
TWO THIRDS MAJORITY, WHICH WOULD GIVE US HOW MANY VOTES? SIX.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING RIGHT HERE.
UM, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE ALREADY VOTED ON THAT.
SO IS IT A LOT OF MONEY? IS THIS RECORD SETTING FOR OUR LONGEST MEETING IN LIKE THIS, THIS, NO, NOT THE LEGISLATE, BUT THIS, THIS TERM, THIS GROUP OF LEGISLATORS.
YES, WE'VE HAD A MEETING LONGER THAN THIS ORDER.
LET REMEMBER, LET'S JUST GO ON IN THE BACK ROW AND GET IT OVER WITH A STACK OF PAPERS.
I THINK I WAS ABSENT THE NEXT DAY.
YEAH, WE WE HAD A LONGER MEETING THAN THAT.
WAS I REMOTE AND ON VACATION? BECAUSE IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING FASTER IF I HAD A COCKTAIL.
IS SHE JUST OBJECTING TO IT GOING ON THE CONSENT? SO SHE WANTS A ROLL CALL.
IS THAT THE OBJECTION? LEGISLATIVE SMITH.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION.
GO AHEAD AND REPEAT IT AGAIN, MADAM CLERK.
DO YOU, ARE YOU JUST OBJECTING THAT IT GOES ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND YOU WANT A ROLL CALL VOTE? YES.
AND I WANTED TO HAVE DISCUSSION.
THAT WAS THE POINT OF MY OBJECTION.
OKAY, SO, SO WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE VOTE VOTE.
UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE A DISCUSSION.
SO GO, GO AHEAD AND, UH, DISCUSS LEGISLATOR SMITH.
WHICH ONE IS THAT? WHAT YOU OKAY, WELL, I JUST WANT THE POINT.
OH, GO AHEAD, MR. CHAIRMAN LEGISLATOR.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT AND MAKE THE, THE BODY AWARE THAT, UH, RESOLUTION 2 2 1 7 2, UM, IS SERIOUSLY LEGALLY FLAWED AS WELL AS ETHICALLY FLAWED, UM, LEGALLY FLAWED BECAUSE IT'S STATED AND WELL KNOWN THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE SEEKING TO PAY ARE VOLUNTEERS AND THEY WERE UNDER NO CONTRACT, NOR WERE THEY EXPECTING ANY TYPE OF COMPENSATION.
AND SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WAS ALSO AN OPEN ENCUMBRANCE THAT WAS CREATED JANUARY THE 27TH, UM, WHICH IS AN EARMARKED AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PAY SOMEONE FOR THAT CURRENT FISCAL YEAR OF WORK.
UM, AND WE KNOW THAT THIS, UH, QUOTE UNQUOTE WORK THAT WAS DONE BY THESE EVALUATORS WAS DONE LAST FISCAL YEAR.
SO TO OPEN UP ANOTHER, UH, LINE OF, UH, UH, OF FUNDING THIS FISCAL YEAR IS FISCALLY IMPROPER.
THAT VIOLATES THE, THE MISSOURI STATE STATUTE AS WELL AS THE MISSOURI CONSTITUTION IS FISCAL PROCEDURES.
UM, SO IF, IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUS LEGALITY OF THIS, UH, THE ETHICAL FLAWS OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE SEEKING TO PAY.
UM, THESE SPECIFIC VOLUNTEERS HAVE POLITICAL TIES AND HAVE MADE POLITICAL DONATIONS TO CURRENT CITY MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE, MYSELF INCLUDED.
UH, WHICH IS WHY I TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN SELECTING ANY OF THESE VOLUNTEERS.
UH, THESE VOLUNTEERS WERE SELECTED, UH, BY FOUR MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE, UH, ONE BEING THE CHAIRMAN FROM LAST YEAR, CHAIRMAN FROM THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS THE BUDGET CHAIR AND FINANCE AND AUDIT CHAIR.
AND SO, UM, SO GO A STEP FURTHER WITH THE, UH, IMPROPRIETY SINCE WE, WE JUST STATED WE DIDN'T LIKE IMPROPRIETY.
UH, ONE OF THESE VOLUNTEERS IS A CURRENT TREASURER OF AN ACTIVE CAMPAIGN OF ONE OF OUR LEGISLATORS, LEGISLATOR MCGEE.
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A BOARD MEMBER OF ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVED MONEY FROM THOSE EVALUATIONS THAT THEY DID FOR THE ARPA FUNDING.SO, UM, CONSIDERING ALL OF THE INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON IN OUR METRO AREA RIGHT NOW ABOUT FISCAL IMPROPRIETY AND, AND ILLEGALITY, I THINK WE NEED TO TREAD LIGHTLY WHEN WE TRY TO DO THINGS RETROACTIVELY THAT WE'RE NOT LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO DO.
SO I'M NOT SUPPORTING THIS RESOLUTION.
UH, YOU MAY, IF YOU WOULD FORWARD THOSE OVER TO THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE FOR EVALUATION AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THIS UP.
I THINK IF THERE'S MOVE TO HOLD.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ANY OBJECTION? YEP.
UM, CAN WE MAKE PUBLICLY KNOWN THAT LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE F THIS WERE TO PASS BE RECEIVING AN HONORARIUM? I THINK IT'S WITHIN THE DOCUMENTS ALREADY, IS IT NOT? NO, I DON'T EVEN SEE ANY NAMES.
THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES.
WE CAN AMEND THIS TO LIST THE NAMES.
OR EVEN PROVIDE US THE NAMES BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE NAMES OF EVERYONE THAT WAS ON THE COMMITTEE.
AND I AGREE WITH LEGISLATOR SMITH.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO, DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD NOT BE ETHICAL.
SO, UH, WE WILL HOLD, UH, 2 2 1 7 2 2 2 1 7 5
[A RESOLUTION awarding a twelve-month contract, with three twelve-month options to extend, for training, consulting services, and software maintenance on the Mobile Assessor Software for use by the Assessment Department to Woolpert, Inc. of Dayton, OH, as a sole source purchase, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $114,355.00.]
ACCORDING A 12 MONTH CONTRACT WITH THREE 12 MONTH OPTIONS TO EXTEND FOR TRAINING, CONSULTING SERVICES AND SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE ON THE MOBILE ASSESSOR SOFTWARE FOR USE BY THE ASSESSMENT DEPARTMENT TO WALPERT INC.OF DAYTON, OHIO AS A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE AT ACTUAL COST THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $114,355 FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET.
SO THIS WILL BE HELD 2 2 1 7 6 AWARD,
[A RESOLUTION awarding a thirty-six-month contract with three twelve-month options to extend for the furnishing of fuel products and related services for use by various County departments to Frazier Oil & L.P. Gas Co., Inc., of Gower, Missouri, awarded under the terms and conditions of City of Kansas City, Missouri Contract No. EV4024, an existing government contract.]
8 36 MONTH CONTRACT WITH THREE 12 MONTH OPTIONS TO EXTEND FOR THE FURNISHING OF FUEL PRODUCTS AND RELATED SERVICES FOR USE BY VARIOUS COUNTY DEPARTMENTS.CHIEF FRAZIER OIL AND LP GAS COMPANY, INC.
OF GOWER, MISSOURI, AWARDED UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF CITY OF KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
CONTRACT NUMBER EV 4 0 2 4, AN EXISTING GOVERNMENT CONTRACT BUDGET COMMITTEE, UM, REPORT FROM COMMITTEE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS ADOPTION.
WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, WE WILL ADD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA 2 2 1 7 7
[A RESOLUTION authorizing the Interim Director of Finance and Purchasing to issue a check in the amount of $8,330.00 to Harvest AV Solutions of Kansas City, MO for the relocation of media equipment used in the Kansas City Legislative Assembly Area.]
AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND PURCHASING TO ISSUE A CHECK IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,330 TO HARVEST AV SOLUTIONS OF KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI FOR THE RELOCATION OF MEATY EQUIPMENT USED IN THE KANSAS CITY LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY AREA BUDGET COMMITTEE.A REPORT FROM COMMITTEE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS ADOPTION WITHOUT OBJECTION.
WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[A RESOLUTION authorizing the County Counselor to execute an addendum to the Legal Services Agreement with Cheri Simpkins of Lee’s Summit, MO, under the terms and conditions of Request for Qualifications No. 24-060, at a cost to the County of $600.00 per day not to exceed $70,000.00.]
AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO EXECUTE AN ADDENDUM TO THE LEGAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH SHERRY SIMKIN OF LEE SUMMIT, MISSOURI UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS NUMBER 24 DASH SIX AND COST THE COUNTY OF $600 PER DAY NOT TO EXCEED $70,000.[A RESOLUTION authorizing the County Executive to execute a permanent utility easement in favor of Spire Missouri, Inc. for a fee payable to the County.]
AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO EXECUTE A PERMANENT UTILITY EASEMENT IN FAVOR OF SPIRE MISSOURI, INC.FOR A FEE PAYABLE TO THE COUNTY LAND USE COMMITTEE.
REPORT FROM COMMITTEE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS ADOPTION WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION.
WE WILL ADD THIS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[A RESOLUTION awarding a twenty-four-month term and supply contract, with two twelve-month options to extend, for the furnishing of LEWeb law enforcement computer information services for use by various County departments to the Regional Justice Information Service (REJIS) Commission of St. Louis, MO, as an acquisition from another governmental entity.]
AWARDING A 24 MONTH TERM SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH TWO 12 MONTH OPTIONS TO EXTEND FOR THE FURNISHING OF ELLIE WEBB LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPUTER INFORMATION SERVICES FOR USE BY VARIOUS COUNTY DEPARTMENTS TO THE REGIONAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SERVICE.LOUIS, MISSOURI IS AN ACQUISITION FROM ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY ANTI-CRIME COMMITTEE.
UH, COMMITTEE HELD IS HELD IN COMMITTEE, SORRY.
[A RESOLUTION awarding a twelve-month term and supply contract, with one twelve-month option to extend, for dump truck repair for use by the Public Works Department to Rush Truck Centers of Kansas City, MO, as a sole source purchase.]
AWARD, A 12 MONTH TERM SUPPLY CONTRACT, ONE 12 MONTH OPTION TO EXTEND FOR DUMP TRUCK REPAIR FOR USE BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO RUSH TRUCK CENTERS OF KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI AS A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET.[A RESOLUTION awarding a twenty-four-month term and supply contract, with one twelve-month option to extend, for the furnishing of legal process services for use by the Family Support Division of the Prosecuting Attorney’s Office to D&B Legal Services of Prairie Village, KS, under the terms and conditions of Request for Proposals No. 25-051.]
WE'RE A 24 MONTH TERM SUPPLY CONTRACT.ONE 12 MONTH OPTION TO EXTEND FOR THE FURNISHING OF LEGAL PROCESS SERVICES FOR USE BY THE FAMILY SUPPORT DIVISION OF THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DMB LEGAL SERVICES OF PRAIRIE VILLAGE, KANSAS.
UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS NUMBER 25 DASH FIVE ONE BUDGET COMMITTEE REPORT FROM COMMITTEE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS ADOPTION 2 2 1 8 3
[A RESOLUTION authorizing the County Executive to execute an Intergovernmental Cooperative Agreement with the City of Oak Grove to provide for the mill and overlay of pavement on the shared portions of Robinson and White Roads, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $121,595.00. ]
CONSENT OBJECT GOING TO THE EIGHT TWO IS GOING TO THE, OH, I'M SORRY.GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT OBJECTION.
2 2 1 8 3 AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO EXECUTE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF OAK GROVE TO PROVIDE FOR THE MILL AND OVERLAY OF PAVEMENT ON THE SHARED PORTIONS OF ROBINSON AND WHITE ROADS AT AN ACTUAL COSTA COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $121,595 IN OUR GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
REPORT FROM COMMITTEE, UH, COMMITTEE WAS HOLDING.
ALRIGHT, ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA,
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MADAM CLERK, I GOT 2 2 1 7 6 2 2 1 7 7 2 2 1 7 9 2 2 1 8 2.IS THAT CORRECT FOR CONSENT AGENDA? I'LL LET YOU READ IT BACK IF YOU
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I MISSED ONE.EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT? YES.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ONE ABSENT ONE EXCUSE, UH, INTRODUCTION OF
[10 INTRODUCTION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCES AND ASSIGNMENT TO COMMITTEE]
[AN ORDINANCE repealing and replacing Resolution 22169 dated February 9, 2026 and appropriating $20,683.00 within the 2026 General Fund and awarding a contract to LCPtracker of Orange, CA, for an additional single software package for use by the Compliance Review Office for non-profit partnership grants, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $20,683.00, as a sole source purchase.]
PROPOSED ORDINANCES AND ASSIGNMENT TO COMMITTEE.MADAM CLERK, ARE THERE ANY ADD-ONS? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN ORDINANCE 60 69 AND I BELIEVE SHE'S GONNA BE PASSING THOSE OUT.
REPEALING AND REPLACING RESOLUTION 2 2 1 6 9 DATE OF FEBRUARY 9TH, 2026 AND APPROPRIATING $20,683 WITHIN THE 2026 GENERAL FUND AND AWARDING A CONTRACT TO LCP TRACKER OF ORANGE, CALIFORNIA FOR AN ADDITIONAL SINGLE SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR USE BY THE COMPLIANCE REVIEW OFFICE FOR NONPROFIT PARTNERSHIP GRANTS AND AN ACTUAL COST OF THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,683 AS A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE.
UH, INTRODUCED BY, WHAT WAS THAT? MYSELF, MANUEL BARKER.
UM, I THINK WE'LL HOLD THIS IN LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS, UM, I THINK AT THIS, THE NEXT GEN OF LEGISLATIVE MEETING, WE'LL HAVE THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE, UH, GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT.
UH, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME THOUGH, WE'LL HOLD IT.
UH, INTRODUCTION TO PROPOSED RESOLUTIONS
[11 INTRODUCTION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTIONS AND ASSIGNMENT TO COMMITTEE]
[A RESOLUTION awarding a contract for annual software maintenance for use by the Collection Department to Aumentum Technologies of Niagara Falls, NY, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $642,563.00, as a sole source purchase.]
AND ASSIGN TO COMMITTEE 2 2 1 8 4 AWARDING A CONTRACT FOR ANNUAL SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE FOR USED BY THE COLLECTION DEPARTMENT TO MENTON TECHNOLOGIES OF NIAGARA FALLS, NEW YORK AT AN ACTUAL COST OF THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $642,563 AS A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE INTRODUCED BY DONNA PEYTON.UH, SIGN IT TO FINANCE AND AUDIT 2 2 1 8 6
[A RESOLUTION awarding a thirty-four month term and supply contract for the furnishing of facility fire suppression systems, equipment, software, and related services for use by the Public Works Department, to Johnson Controls of Staples, MN, under the terms and conditions set forth in Sourcewell Contract No.121024, an existing competitively bid government contract.]
AWARDING A 34 MONTH TERM SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH THE FUR FOR THE FURNISHING OF FACILITY, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS, EQUIPMENT SOFTWARE, AND RELATED SERVICES FU BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.JOHNSON CONTROLS OF STAPLES, MINNESOTA UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET FORTH AND SOURCE WALL CONTRACT NUMBER 1 2 1 0 2 4 AN EXISTING COMPETITIVELY BIG GOVERNMENT CONTRACT INTRODUCED BY MANUEL BARKER IV.
UH, SIGN OF PUBLIC WORKS 2 2 1 8 7
[A RESOLUTION awarding a contract for the purchase of two vehicles for use by the Jackson County Drug Task Force to Corwin Motors of Springfield, LLC, of Springfield, MO, under the terms and conditions of State of Missouri Contract No. MC250182 and CC24166201-005, existing competitively bid government contracts, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $99,502.00.]
AWARD A CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF TWO VEHICLES FOR USE BY THE JACKSON COUNTY DRUG TASK FORCE.TWO COHEN MOTORS OF SPRINGFIELD, LLC OF SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF STATE OF MISSOURI CONTRACT NUMBER MC 2 51 82 AND CC 2 4 1 6 6 2 1 5 EXISTING COMPETITIVELY, BIG GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS IN AN ACTUAL COST OF THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $99,502 INTRODUCED BY MANUEL BARKER, IV SIGN OF JUSTICE AND LAW 2 2 1 8 8
[A RESOLUTION awarding a contract for the purchase of rifles for use by the Sheriff’s Office to Clyde Armory, Inc., of Athens, GA, under the terms and conditions of invitation to Bid No. 25-056 at a cost to the County not to exceed $83,565.00.]
WE A CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF RIFLES FOR USE BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO CLYDE ARMORY, INC.OF ENSS, GEORGIA UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF INVITATION TO BID NUMBER 25 DASH FIVE SIX AND COST COUNTY NOT TO EXCEED $83,565 INTRODUCED BY MANUEL BARKER IV SIGN OF JUSTICE AND
[A RESOLUTION awarding a contract for the purchase of a three 2026 Ford Transit T-350 Passenger Vans for use by the Jackson County Sheriff’s Office Detention Center to Midway Ford Truck Center of Kansas City, MO, under the terms and conditions of State of Missouri Contract No. MC2501182001-MC250182011, an existing competitively bid government contract, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $230,220.00.]
LAW 2 2 1 8 9 AWARDING A CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF 3 20 26 FORD TRANSIT T THREE 50 PASSENGER VANS FOR USED BY THE JACKSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE DETENTION CENTER, TWO MIDWAY FORD TRUCK CENTER OF KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI INTO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF STATE OF MISSOURI.CONTRACT NUMBER MC 2 5 108 2 1 DASH MC 2 58 2 0 0 1 1.
AN EXISTING COMPETITIVELY BIG GOVERNMENT CONTRACT IN ACTUAL COST OF THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $230,220 INTRODUCED BY MANUEL BARKER.
THE FOURTH SIGNED JUSTICE AND LAW 2 2 1 9 0
[A RESOLUTION awarding a contract for annual maintenance of the Manatron recording software for use by the Recorder of Deeds Department to Manatron, Inc., of Chicago, IL, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $106,772.00, as a sole source purchase.]
AWARD, A CONTRACT FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE OF THE TRONS RECORDING SOFTWARE FOR USE BY THE RECORDER OF DEEDS DEPARTMENT TO TRON, INC.OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS AT AN ACTUAL COST OF THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $106,772 IS A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE INTRODUCED BY DONNA PEYTON.
I SIGN A FINE AND AUDIT 2 2 1 9 1
[A RESOLUTION awarding a twelve month term and supply contract, with three twelve month options to extend, for the furnishing of t-shirts and wearing apparel for use by various County departments to Exhibit Arts LLC of Wichita, KS, EAIS LLC of Atlanta, GA, and Sew What? LLC of Lee’s Summit, MO, under the terms and conditions of Invitation to Bid No. 25-050.]
ACCORDING A 12 MONTH TERM SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH THREE 12 MONTH OPTIONS TO EXTEND FOR THE FIRST UNIT OF T-SHIRTS AND WEARING APPAR FOR USE BY VARIOUS COUNTY DEPARTMENTS TO EXHIBIT ARTS LLC OF WICHITA, KANSAS, E-A-I-S-L-L-C OF ATLANTA, GEORGIA.AND SO WHAT LLC OF LISA, MISSOURI TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF INVITATION TO NUMBER 25 DASH FIVE INTRODUCED BY DONNA PEYTON SIGN OF FINANCE AND AUDIT 2 2 1 9 2
[A RESOLUTION authorizing the County Counselor to execute a twelve-month contract, with one twelve-month option to extend, for legal services to Seyferth, Blumenthal, and Harris, LLC., of Kansas City, MO, at a cost to the County not to exceed $100,000.00 as a sole source purchase.]
AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY COUNSEL COUNSELOR TO EXECUTE A 12 MONTH CONTRACT WITH ONE 12 MONTH OPTION TO EXTEND FOR LEGAL SERVICE TO SEAFORTH BLUMENTHAL AND HARRIS, LLC OF KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI AT COSTA COUNTY NOT TO EXCEED $100,000 AS A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE INTRODUCED BY DONNA PAYTON, UH, SIGN OF FINANCE AND AUDIT COUNTY EXECUTIVE UH,[12 COUNTY EXECUTIVE ORDERS]
[EO 26-05 Community Mental Health Fund board appointment]
ORDERS.MADAM CLERK, ARE THERE ANY EXECUTIVE ORDERS? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, EXECUTIVE ORDER 26 26 0 5.
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APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH FUND BOARD, I HEREBY MAKE THE FOLLOWING APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH FUND BOARD.CRYSTAL HART JOHNSON IS HEREBY APPOINTED TO A NEW TERM SET TO EXPIRE JANUARY 31ST, 2029.
THE SEAT WAS PREVIOUSLY VACANT.
MS. HART JOHNSON'S RESUME IS ATTACHED.
[EO 26-06 Appointment to Plan Commission]
I HEREBY MAKE THE FOLLOWING APPOINTMENT TO THE PLAN COMMISSION.GREG LOCKE IS HEREBY APPOINTED TO A NEW TERM TO SET TO EXPIRE FEBRUARY 28TH, 2030.
MR. LOCKE LIVES IN THE SIXTH DISTRICT AND HIS RESUME IS ATTACHED, UH, UNFINISHED
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BUSINESS.IS THERE ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS SEEING NON NEW
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BUSINESS? IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS? UM, LEGISLATOR PAID? YES.I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR AN EXCUSE ASK THAT LEGISLATOR DURAM MCGEE BE EXCUSED.
HE, UM, IS DEALING WITH SOME MEDICAL CONCERNS TODAY AND IS UNABLE, WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT.
UH, ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? UM, I'LL, I'LL HAVE A PIECE OF NEW BUSINESS.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO APPOINT AD HOC COMMITTEES TO ASSIST, UH, WITH, UH, EXPANSION OF OUR EFFORTS TO TRY AND ACCOMPLISH, UH, GOALS THAT WE'VE ALL, UH, DICTATED WE, WE WANT AS PRIORITIES.
UM, WORKED WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, I'M ASKING ADVISORS TO STEP IN TO HELP WITH HAVING SEATS AT THE TABLE.
ALTHOUGH NOT VOTING MEMBERS, THEIR VOICES ARE IMPORTANT FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, YOU SHOULD BE EXPECTING THAT TO BE COMING, UM, PROBABLY NOW TOMORROW.
SO THAT, UH, WE CAN GIVE OUR CLERK STAFF SOME, SOME BREAK.
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SO THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE MEETING IS SCHEDULED TO BE HELD ON MARCH 9TH, UH, 2026 AT 3:00 PM AT THE EASTERN JACKSON COUNTY COURTHOUSE, 3 0 8 WEST KANSAS INDEPENDENCE, MISSOURI.UH, GROUND FLOOR LEGISLATIVE CHAMBERS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? OPPOSED? SECOND.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SEAN'S OPPOSED? UH, AS OF 5 58, WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND TIME.