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[ A public hearing will be held on Ordinance 6075 ORDINANCES IN COMMITTEE]
FRANKLIN CALLING LAND USE COMMITTEE TO ORDER.UH, WITH US TODAY WE HAVE JAYLEN ANDERSON, JEANNIE LAUER, AND DONNA PEYTON.
EACH LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN PROVIDED A TRANSCRIPT OF THE PLAN COMMISSION HEARING, SO WE WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY REPEATED COMMENTS WERE PROVIDED AT THAT HEARING.
THIS COMMITTEE WILL ONLY HEAR NEW OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
ANYBODY THAT THINKS THEY MIGHT TESTIFY, UH, EVEN MIGHT THINK ABOUT TESTIFYING.
PLEASE STAND SO THAT DAWN CAN SWEAR YOU IN.
I WILL CALL YOUR NAME TO TESTIFY.
UH, WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU CAN TESTIFY FOR LESS THAN THREE MINUTES.
I PROBABLY WON'T, UH, INSIST ON THAT TILL WE GET TO FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES, BUT PLEASE KEEP IT SHORT.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ORDINANCE
[6075 AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 126± acre tract from District AG (Agricultural) to District RE (Residential Estates).]
6 0 7 5 AMENDING THE ZONING DISTRICT'S ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BY REZONING A CERTAIN 126 PLUS ACRES TRACK FROM DISTRICT AGRICULTURAL TO DISTRICT REAL ESTATE RESIDENTIAL ESTATES.I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RANDY.
I'M RANDY DEAL WITH JACKSON COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS.
THIS IS, UH, BETWEEN STONY POINT SCHOOL AND MAJOR ROADS SOUTH OF GRAIN VALLEY ON 126 ACRES.
THEY'RE CHANGING THE ZONING FROM AG TO DISTRICT RE RESIDENTIAL ESTATES.
THIS IS TO A REQUEST TO CREATE 33 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SO THE ZONING IN THE AREA IS A MIX OF AGRICULTURAL AND RESIDENTIAL ESTATES.
ABOUT A MILE TO THE WEST IS RIGAN LAKE, WHICH IS 14 LOTS.
PEGA ESTATES IS THE SIX LOT DEVELOPMENT.
LAND USE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
THE APPLICANT IS WISHING TO DEVELOP THE 126 ACRES INTO A 33 LOT SUBDIVISION.
THE MIN MINIMUM LOT SIZE WILL BE THREE ACRES.
EACH LOT WILL BE SERVED BY AN INDIVIDUAL WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
THE SEPTIC PLANS WILL BE VIEWED ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AT THE TIME THE PLANS FOR A RESIDENCE ARE SUBMITTED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT.
A LETTER FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN BOTH WATER DISTRICT 17 AND 13.
AN EMAIL PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT FROM DISTRICT 13 STATES THAT PHASE ONE WILL BE SERVED BY DISTRICT 13.
THE LOTS 17 TO 33 WILL BE SERVED BY DISTRICT 17.
A LETTER FROM THE CENTRAL JACKSON COUNTY FIRE DISTRICT WAS SUBMITTED REQUIRING FIGHTER HYDRANTS AND FIRE FLOW REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROPOSED ROAD WILL BE CROSSING A WATER COURSE IDENTIFIED BY FEMA WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN.
SO A PERMIT FROM THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS WILL BE REQUIRED.
THE WATERWAY IS SUBJECT TO 150 FOOT SETBACK ON EACH SIDE MEASURED FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE WATERWAY.
THIS WILL BE LABELED A NO BUILD ZONE PER CHAPTER 2 41 OF THE COUNTY CODE.
A LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED BY THE NA, UH, DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES.
PHASE TWO IS PROPOSING AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THE STONY POINT ROAD INTERSECTION, WHICH ELIMINATES AN OFFSITE OFFSET INTERSECTION FROM THEIR PREVIOUS PLAN IF APPROVED, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND DESIGN CONSTRUCTION PLAN PLANS WOULD THEN NEED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION ENGINEERING DIVISION FOR REVIEW.
WATER LINES WILL BE SUBJECT TO RE SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW PROCESS.
THIS IS IN THE URBAN, IN THE SUBURBAN TIERS.
UM, ALSO SUBMITTED WAS THE, UH, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WALNUT VALLEY, UM, WHICH NEEDS APPROVAL AS WELL.
SO THE PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THIS SIX TO TWO, UH, 4 6 4 2 AGAINST.
AND WITH THAT, UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, THERE WAS A PROTEST PETITION FILED BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO IN IN THE UDC CHAPTER TWO 40, THERE IS A PROVISION FOR A PROTEST OF FOR PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT WHERE 30% OF THE OWNERS OR MORE OF THE LAND WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA ARE, ARE SIGNED.
THE PETITION AND IT IS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE LEGISLATURE.
AND THIS CAN ONLY BE EXCEPT, UH, ADOPTED EXCEPT BY A FAVORABLE VOTE OF TWO THIRDS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE.
SO THE LEGISLATURE CAN OVERRIDE THE PROTEST PETITION.
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OF THE OWNERSHIP.UH, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 81 ACRES, 30% OF THE LAND IS 24 ACRES.
99% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT NOTIFICATION SIGNED THE PROTEST PETITION.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY WE HAD, UH, FOR THE STAFF REPORT TO THE PLAN COMMISSION AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
WHITNEY, I WANTED TO WHITNEY MILLER WITH THE COUNTY COUNSELOR'S OFFICE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR TO THE BODY.
AND I CAN SAY THIS AGAIN AT THREE, BUT IT'S THREE QUARTERS OF THE BODY, NOT THREE QUARTERS PRESENT IN VOTING.
SO IT'LL BE SIX VOTES REQUIRED TO OVERRIDE REGARDLESS OF WHO IS IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING THIS AFTERNOON.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THE APPLICANT TO ATTEND, BUT IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES.
COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? DAVE S ATTORNEY FOR APPLICANT.
AND DO YOU WANT US TO TALK NOW OR DO YOU WANNA TALK AT ALL OR DO YOU WANT TO TALK WHEN WE ASK FOR THOSE IN FAVOR? UM, GO AHEAD.
I THINK WE'RE HERE JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS WERE SUPPLIED WITH A MAP, BUT I THINK I'VE GOT A COPY THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
AND THEN, UH, THE APPLICANT ALSO DID A SUMMARY LETTER, I THINK, UM, MR. DEAL HANDED THAT OUT, WHICH KIND OF SUMMARIZES EVERYTHING.
AND SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU GUYS GOT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
UH, HOW MANY OF THESE LOTS WOULD YOU SAY ARE PRE-SOLD THERE? THERE'S NONE PRE-SOLD? NONE.
OKAY, CLARIFY, I GUESS WE'LL START CALLING.
TANYA, DO YOU WANT THIS? SO THIS IS, THEY'VE GOT A COPY OF PLAQUE? YES, I GOT IT.
TO CLARIFY WHAT, UM, WAS JUST HANDED TO YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE XXI ON, I'M SORRY, IT'S ON'S ON, I'M SORRY.
I'M TANYA BAKER, I'M WITH G AND B HOLDINGS.
UM, WE'RE THE ONES, YOU KNOW, PROPOSING THIS ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS.
SO WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED YOU HERE IS JUST KIND OF A SYNOPSIS OF THE AREA AND THE PARCELS THAT ARE IN THE AREA AT THE, AT RIGHT NOW.
SO THE BIG XS ARE WHERE WE'RE WANTING TO PUT IN THE THREE ACRE SUBDIVISION, YOU KNOW, THREE ACRES, STATE LOTS, UM, IN THE, ON THE 126 ACRES.
SO THOSE XS REPRESENT THE 126 ACRES.
SO THEN THESE OTHERS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE AREA.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY RANGE FROM THREE ACRES TO 10 AND OVER ACRES.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT IN THIS 126 ACRES IS, YOU KNOW, THREE PLUS ACRES A STATE TO JUST, AND, AND IT STILL ALIGNS WITH THE RURAL, YOU KNOW, AESTHETIC OF ALL OF THIS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT ARE AROUND THERE.
SO, UH, WITH THREE ACRES FROM ROAD FRONT TO ROAD, FRONT ROAD ACCESS POINTS FROM STONY POINT TO MAJOR ROAD TO BUCKNER, TARNY TO ARNET ROAD IN THAT SYNOPSIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY 34 PARCELS THAT ARE AROUND THREE ACRES.
UM, THERE'S 43 PARCELS THAT ARE BETWEEN THAT FOUR, FIVE AND SIX ACRE RANGE.
UM, 19 IN THAT 7, 8, 9 ACRE RANGE.
AND THEN ABOUT 26 IN THAT 10 ANOVA RANGE.
SO, AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE PUTTING THE THREE PLUS ACRES IN THOSE X AREA OF 126 ACRES AND A NEW ROAD ROAD WILL BE CUT FROM MAJOR ROAD TO STONY POINT, AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IN THE PLAT.
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AND WE'VE HAD AN OPEN DISCUSSION.YOU KNOW, WE UM, HAD A MEETING, WE PROPOSED A MEETING WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND STUFF AND INVITED THEM TO A MEETING AND ASKED THEM TO COME TO HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION WITH THEM BACK IN AUGUST BEFORE OUR PLAN COMMISSION, OR WAS IT AUGUST? YEAH, SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER, AUGUST.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE
UM, I MEAN ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS IS THE RULE AESTHETIC, WHICH WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN VERY, INSTEAD OF IT BEING A HIGH DENSE, YOU KNOW, SUBDIVISION OF A HUNDRED PLUS HOMES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN MADE SURE TO KEEP IT IN THAT THREE PLUS ACRE RURAL ESTATE LIKE DEVELOPMENT.
THESE AREN'T ENTRY LEVEL HOMES.
THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE CUSTOM BUILD ON ACREAGES, YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THE TRAFFIC.
THEIR CONCERN WAS THE TRAFFIC, BUT WITH THE TWO ACCESS POINTS WITH MAJOR ROAD AND STONY POINT SCHOOL ROAD, THAT DISTRIBUTES THE TRAFFIC.
AND THEN I ALSO HAVE DAVE I, IN THAT, I FORGOT TO BRING IT UP HERE.
SO WE DID KIND OF SOME SUB TRAFFIC SCENARIOS 'CAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS KIND OF THEIR CONCERNS.
SO IN PHASE ONE WITH 16 LOTS AND JUST SAYING TWO CARS PER, PER LOT WITH THE TRIP AMOUNTS, SO THAT'S GONNA AVERAGE ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 12 CARS PER HOUR.
UM, EVEN IF YOU DID IT, UPPED IT TO THE THREE CARS PER LOT, THAT'S ABOUT 18 CARS PER HOUR IS WHAT IT'S GONNA ADD TO TRAFFIC.
AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO ACCESS POINTS.
UM, SO RELATIVELY THAT STILL KEEPS A LOW, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE COUNTY ROADS.
AND THEN PHASE TWO, THE SAME THING.
I THINK WE GAVE YOU GUYS THAT INFORMATION.
SO MR. CHAIRMAN, JAYLEN, UH, SO SURROUNDING, UH, THIS A HUNDRED, YOU SAID 120 ACRES, 126, UH, 126 ACRES.
SO ARE THESE, UH, BESIDES THE EXES, ARE THESE FOLKS' HOMES OR PROPERTIES OR FARMS? IS THAT WHAT'S AROUND THERE? CORRECT.
BASICALLY MOST OF 'EM ARE HOMES.
AND YOU SAID WHICH ROADS ARE THESE BETWEEN, I'M SORRY, SO MAJOR ROAD AND STONY POINT SCHOOL ROAD.
ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT APPLICANT OR THE NEXT PERSON TO TESTIFY.
NO, I'M GONNA CALL, UH, MATT AND TANYA BAKER EITHER TOGETHER OR SEPARATELY.
WE'RE A LITTLE AHEAD WHERE I THOUGHT THEN.
UH, SO WE'VE ALSO DEALT WITH MATT BAKER, CORRECT? DAVID HALPIN, ARE YOU GONNA MAKE A STATEMENT OR WE COVERED YOU YET? I THINK, I THINK WE'VE GOT IT COVERED.
I DON'T WRITE VERY WELL ANYMORE.
UH, I'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR 29.
I'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR 29 YEARS NOW, AND AT THE TIME WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE, WE KNEW THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
UH, AND AS SUCH, MY WIFE AND I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY OBJECTION TO IT AT ALL.
UH, I DON'T SEE ANY GREAT IMPACT, UH, NEGATIVE IMPACT, UH, THAT IT WILL HAVE ON OUR PROPERTY.
IN FACT, UH, I WOULD THINK IT MIGHT HAVE INCREASED VALUE, UH, TO MY PROPERTY.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
CURRENTLY, HOW MANY ACRES DO YOU AND YOUR WIFE HAVE? I HAVE 12 ACRES.
I LIVE AT 3 1 2 0 6 EAST MAJOR ROAD.
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THE PROPERTY OR DEVELOPMENT IN QUESTION WILL BORDER ME ON THE NORTH AND WEST SIDES.UM, ON TWO SIDES OF MY PROPERTY, I HAVE APPROXIMATELY 10 ACRES.
UM, I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN, UH, JANUARY OF 2016.
UH, SO I'VE BEEN OVER THERE FOR A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS.
UM, SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE, UH, LAST HEARING AT THE ZONING COMMISSION.
MY FATHER WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND I HAD STARTED A NEW JOB SO I CAN GOOD TIME OFF.
SO I APOLOGIZE IF I REPEAT ANY EVIDENCE THAT WAS ALREADY, UH, STATED.
BUT, UM, THE PRIMARY CONCERNS, RIGHT, UM, FOR ME ARE THE GREAT CHANGE IN THE, THE AESTHETICS, LIKE THEY SAID.
BUT, UM, MORE SO FOR ME BECAUSE I'M GONNA BE RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT PROPERTY AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT, I THINK THE LAST TIME I SAW THEIR PLANS, IT WAS ABOUT, UM, SEVEN OR EIGHT HOUSES THAT ARE GONNA BORDER ME.
THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT THE WEST AND NORTH SIDES OF THE MY PROPERTY ARE GOING UPHILL FROM THE REST OF MY PROPERTY.
SO, UH, THE GROUND DOES NOT PERCOLATE VERY WELL IN THE AREA, WHICH MEANS MOST LIKELY, UM, SOME, IF NOT ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES WILL HAVE TO HAVE, UH, EVAPORATION PONDS.
AND YOU GUYS KNOW HOW IT IS IN MISSOURI WITH THE GREAT RAINS.
UM, YOU CAN BUILD THE LEVEES YOU WANT, BUT ESTIMATE RUNS DOWNHILL, RIGHT? SO THAT'S ISSUE NUMBER ONE.
ISSUE NUMBER TWO WITH ME IS THE, UM, THE CHANGING, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO GRADING AND EARTH MOVING.
OKAY? UM, WHEN THE FIRST APPLICATION WAS MADE AND WAS POSTPONED AND THEN, AND THEN THEY, THEY PULLED THE, THE REQUEST A FEW YEARS AGO.
UM, HE THEN THE, THE, UM, PERSON SUBMITTING THEN STARTED BRINGING BASEMENT FOILS AND DUMPING THEM ON THE PROPERTY.
SINCE THEN, MY POND, UM, TO THE SOUTH OF MY PROPERTY IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, WHICH USED TO BE ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF FEET DEEP, IS ABOUT SIX INCHES DEEP NOW FROM EROSION AND, AND ALL THE, ALL THE, EVERYTHING GOING INTO MY PROPERTY.
ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THIS IS GONNA BE A LOT OF EARTH MOVING.
THERE'S ONLY SO MANY CARS, RIGHT? UM, THE PROBLEM IS GONNA BE A LOT OF EARTH MOVING.
MY FATHER, WHO IS 71 YEARS OLD, HAS ONE LUNG.
UM, HE'S HAD PNEUMONIA SEVERAL TIMES.
HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL TWO YEARS AGO.
HE WAS VENTILATED FOR 11 DAYS.
I'M VERY CONCERNED OF ALL THE DUST AND DEBRIS THAT IT'S GONNA GET KICKED UP.
UM, IF THE, UH, SUBMITTING PARTY HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THEIR BASEMENT SPOILS FROM GOING INTO MY, MY POND, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE GONNA WET DOWN THE LAND PROPERLY AND KEEP IT FROM GETTING IN THE AIR AND KILLING MY FATHER.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE CONCERN.
THE OTHER CONCERN, UM, THE TRAFFIC.
SO COMING INTO MY, COMING FROM THE EAST, UM, TO THE WEST, RIGHT? COMING TO MY PROPERTY, I LIVE JUST OVER A BLIND HILL.
THERE'S SIGNAGE UPS, SCHOOL BUS STOP.
MY KIDS RIDE THE SCHOOL BUS TO AND FROM SCHOOL PEOPLE ALREADY, AS IT IS DRIVE ON A 35 MILE PER HOUR STREET DRIVE, 60 TO 80 MILE AN HOUR THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY CHILDREN ALMOST HAVE ALMOST BEEN KILLED MANY TIMES WITH PEOPLE SWERVING AND ALMOST CRASHING.
UM, THERE IS A STOP SIGN AT OUR NET THAT'S KNOWN FOR PEOPLE HILL JUMPING AND ROLLING.
AND, AND THERE'S BEEN FATALITIES THERE.
UM, SO, UM, PHASE ONE MAY ONLY BE 16 HOMES, 14 HOMES, WHATEVER.
BUT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR 33 HOMES.
THAT'S SAY AN AVERAGE OF 66 CARS TWICE A DAY, THAT'S GONNA GO THROUGH A TWO LANE COUNTRY ROAD.
UM, SO THERE'S GREAT CONCERN THERE.
UM, THERE IS PLANNED TWO ENTRANCES, BUT THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE IS THROUGH A CHIP AND SEAL ROAD WITH A TIGHT 90 DEGREE TURN.
UM, THE SOUTH ENTRANCE WILL BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
SO, UM, 10 YEARS AGO WHEN I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, I BOUGHT IT KNOWING THAT EVERYTHING IN THAT AREA WAS, WAS ZONED AGRICULTURAL.
AND THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT INTO THIS AREA.
I MOVED FROM CALIFORNIA, I CAME HERE TO THE GREAT STATE OF MISSOURI FOR THE THINGS THAT MISSOURI HAS TO OFFER, PRIMARILY JACKSON COUNTY, EASTERN JACKSON COUNTY.
AND COMING IN AND CHANGING THAT, CHANGING TO RULES, UH, TO RESIDENTIAL STATE, IT YOU'RE CHANGING THE ENTIRE DYNAMIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT WE ALL, ALL THE PROPERTY BOUGHT OWNERS IN THE AREA BOUGHT INTO.
AND THE FIRST SUBMISSION, WHEN IT FIRST SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST YEARS AGO, UM, RANDY, MY NEIGHBOR THAT LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS SOUTHERN LEG THAT TOUCHES MAJOR, HE AND I WALKED THROUGH THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK AT THAT TIME WE GATHERED 119 OR 129 SIGNATURES OF PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA.
THAT ONE HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS GOING.
'CAUSE THE 300 FOOT RULE THAT ONLY COVERS WHAT, FIVE, 10 PROPERTIES, RIGHT? UM, BUT TWO, WERE VERY, VERY UPSET ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS, TRYING THEM TRYING TO PUT THIS THROUGH.
UM, IF THEY STUCK WITH THE AGRICULTURAL, UM, ZONING, THAT WOULD BE, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT, A FIVE ACRE LIMIT.
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ANY ONE OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT, THAT WOULD STAY WITHIN THE, THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS.BUT BREAKING IT DOWN TO THREE ACRES IS DRAMATICALLY MORE HOMES.
IT'S MORE CARS, IT'S MORE CONSTRUCTION, IT'S MORE CHANGES TO THE LAND, IT'S MORE CHANGES TO THE AREA.
AND IT'S BASICALLY TURNING EASTERN JACKSON COUNTY WITH THE, THE RURAL AREA INTO THE SUBURBS.
WE ALL BOUGHT, I UNDERSTAND IT'S THEIR PROPERTY AND I BELIEVE AND RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH YOUR PROPERTY, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT HURTING SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND I'VE WORKED VERY HARD AND THE, MY NEIGHBORS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD FOR WHAT THEY HAVE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LAST ZONING COMMISSION, BUT THE FIRST ZONING COMMISSION WAS SHOULDER TO SHOULDER.
AND THE CONSENSUS IS A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE LOST FAITH IN, IN THE SYSTEM.
A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT THE, THE COUNTY JUST CARES ABOUT THE TAX DOLLARS THAT THEY SEE.
UH, NOT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK HARD TO PROVIDE THOSE TAX DOLLARS TO THE GOVERNMENT.
SO THOSE ARE MY PRIMARY CONCERNS.
I JUST WANT A BETTER, SAFER PLACE FOR MY KIDS TO GROW UP.
I ALREADY DEAL WITH ALCOHOL BOTTLES BEING THROWN, UM, ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD INTO THE PROPERTY.
I ENDED UP WITH POISON IVY LAST YEAR, DIGGING 'EM ALL OUT.
UM, I ALREADY FOUND A METH PIPE ON THE CORNER OF MY PROPERTY.
LET'S SAY A THIRD OF 'EM ARE GONNA HAVE TEENAGERS AT SOME POINT.
WE WERE ALL TEENAGERS AT ONE POINT.
I'M A, I'M THE CLOSEST 10 ACRES.
THEY'RE GONNA BE JUMPING THE FENCE INTO MY PROPERTY TO COME AND DO WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO.
I JUST AS YOU GUYS TO, TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THEY COULD BUILD, KEEP IT AS IT IS.
BUILD FIVE ACRE LOTS WILL BE PERFECTLY FINE.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
IF I COULD MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY, GO AHEAD, JEAN.
WELL, I JUST WANTED TO, TO CLARIFY, EVEN AT FIVE ACRES, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO REZONE THE RESIDENTIAL RANCHETTE TO KEEP IT AGRICULTURAL.
THOSE TRACKS WOULD HAVE TO BE 10 ACRES OR LARGER WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS.
OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD PREFER THAT.
EVERYBODY WITH AN EYESIGHT IS 10 ACRES OTHER THAN THE COUPLE THAT HAVE SLIPPED IN AND, AND SPLIT IT UP TO THREE ACRES.
SO MOST OF THOSE TWO ACRE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN THAT BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSE IN THAT VICINITY IS ALL 10 15 ACRE LOTS.
UH, TO WHAT DEGREE HAVE YOU PRESENTED THESE ISSUES TO THE DEVELOPER? UM, AT THE, THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, INVITATIONAL THAT HE HAD, UM, AND AT THE FIRST ZONING COMMISSION.
AND HAS THERE BEEN ANY, ANY REMEDIES FOR THE, ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT UP? NO.
I HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO HIM PERSONALLY AND OBVIOUSLY I'M UPSET ABOUT IT.
I'VE BUILT EVERYTHING I HAVE FROM NOTHING.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, WHAT IS, UH, UH, I'M INTERESTED ABOUT, UM, THE, UM, 30% OF FOLKS THAT SIGNED THIS.
HOW MANY FOLKS SIGNED, UM, THIS DOCUMENT? RANDY? I'M LOOKING, I THINK WE SAID NOT.
SO THERE WAS, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT IT, BUT THERE WAS THE SPREADSHEET THAT CAME ALONG WITH THE COPY OF IT.
SO OUT OF 28 PEOPLE ALL BUT TWO SIGNED.
UM, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, SIR, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW UM, THESE PROPERTIES WOULD BE UP A HILL FROM, FROM YOUR YES TO.
SO IF YOU COME INTO MY PROPERTY FROM MAJOR, YOU COME DOWN A HILL A LITTLE BIT TO THE BOTTOM THIRD OF MY PROPERTY, THEN EVERYTHING GOING TO THE NORTH AND EAST AND, UM, TO SOME, OR SORRY, NORTH AND WEST AND TO THE EXTENT SOME TO THE EAST IS UPHILL.
SO I KIND OF FISHBOWL EVERYTHING COMES INTO ME.
DO YOU HAVE VERY MUCH DRAINAGE DOWN FROM THAT AREA OR WHAT, LIKE FROM THAT ASPECT? YEAH, IT GETS AS IT IS.
SO I HAVE A POND IN THE BACK AT THE NORTH OF MY PROPERTY.
THAT YOU SAID IS AT SIX INCHES.
IT'S, IT'S ALL, UM, INFILTRATED WATER.
I LIVE AT 3 0 9 1 0 EAST OLD MAJOR ROAD.
AND, UM, MY FIRST CONCERN, MY WIFE'S JUST, I, I AM ONE OF THESE PEOPLE.
SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN JUST 'CAUSE LIKE OUT ON SEVEN HIGHWAY PEOPLE THAT EVER WANT ANYTHING BUILT BY 'EM.
I LIKE THE LARGER LOTS OF THREE.
I KNOW MINIMUMS THREE WE'RE, WE'RE ONE OF THE GRANDFATHERED IN, WE'RE ONLY A
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TWO ACRE LOT, BUT THEY ARE NOW PUTTING IN 10 MORE HOUSES ON OLD MAJOR RIGHT NOW.PLUS WE JUST HAD FOUR PUT IN ON ENOCH IN MAY OLD MAJOR.
AND THEY'RE THREE ACRE, THEY'RE ALL, UM, BARNUMS AND THINGS, BUT THE NEWEST ONES THAT ARE COMING IN RIGHT NOW, AND THEY ARE, THEY'RE ALL MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES.
UM, BUT OLD MAJOR ROAD HAS TURNED INTO A ROAD THAT YOU, YOU CAN'T EVEN DRIVE ON NOW.
SO I'M WONDERING WHO MAINTAINS THE ROAD.
IS THERE A CERTAIN TIME THAT THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LIKE THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF MAINTENANCE? ANYTHING GOES WRONG ALSO, IS IT BEING, IS IT TURNING NORTH? THE, THE ENTRANCE COMING OFF OF MAJOR AND THE GENTLEMAN WAS CORRECT.
THAT IS I 70 SPEEDWAY OUT THERE.
UM, THEY DID PUT IN THE THREEWAY STOP, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE YEAR AT MY SON GRADUATED IN OH SEVEN THAT SOMEONE WAS KILLED AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, ANETTE AND MAJOR.
SINCE THEN, WE'VE PUT IN A THREE, UH, THREE STOP SIGNS AND, BUT, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY CALLED THE SHERIFF AND HAD 'EM COME OUT AND DO SPEED, SPEED ON, I'M TELLING YOU FROM THE TOP OF THE HILL WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BLIND SPOT HEADING WEST.
THAT'S A, YOU, YOU CAN GO, YOU CAN GO FAST.
AND THIS WHERE THIS ENTRANCE, I DIDN'T KNOW, IS THE ENTRANCE GONNA BE AT OLD MAJOR AND MAJOR MEANING IS IT GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER PAST THE OLD MAJOR? HANG ON, I'VE GOT, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT, THERE CAN'T BE THAT MUCH MORE ME.
ANOTHER ENTRANCE, MEANING THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN TURN ON MAJOR ONTO OLD MAJOR IS LEFT.
SO IS THIS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WEST? IT'S GONNA BE HALFWAY BETWEEN THE ENOCH MILL AND OLD MAJOR IS, IS BASICALLY WHERE THE ENTRANCES AT RIGHT THERE.
SO I GUESS THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
UH, NO, I'M ON THE, I'M IN THE MIDDLE.
BASICALLY WHERE YOUR PROPERTY LINE IS YEAH.
SO, UM, WHICH WILL GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN THEY COME ACROSS, WHEN THEY COME OVER THAT HILL, THEY'RE FLYING.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THE OTHER PART IS THE, THE ROAD CONDITIONS.
I, I'M NOT AGAINST BUILDING HOMES.
I MEAN, THE ONES THAT ARE BUILDING NEXT TO ME RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ALL THREE TO FIVE 10 ACRE LOSS.
WHEN THE OLD MAN DIED THREE YEARS AGO, WE SAID, WELL, THAT, THAT FIRST SHOVEL OF DIRT'S GONNA HAPPEN BEFORE HE IS EVEN IN THE GROUND.
SO, UM, I CAN'T SAY, BUT THAT, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE WAS THAT, UM, THE TRAFFIC WILL BE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE SAYING THE SOUTH SIDE IS GOING TO BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE COMING IN ON THOSE HOMES.
UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S GONNA GO ROAD TO ROAD AND I GUESS IT'S JUST A COUNTY ROAD, RIGHT? JUST A NORMAL THE THE ONE THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT IN.
IT'LL IT'LL BE A CONSTRUCTED ENGINEERED ROAD.
KINDA LIKE DOWN AT CURING LAKE.
IF IT'S LIKE KERRIGAN LAKE, THAT LOOKS NICE.
ROBERT WALCOTT WALCO, UH, HAVE YOU, I MEAN, WROTE MY NAME DOWN
YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TESTIFY.
OH, IT'S ON, NO, IT'S ON ROBERT QUIST QUIST ENGINEERING.
UM, I LAID OUT THE SUBDIVISION AND, UH, I'VE BEEN INFORMED I NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE DETENTION AND THE STORM WATER.
UH, WE INTEND TO PUT STORM WATER, UH, PROTECTION BMPS, UH, TO PROTECT THE EROSION THAT I, I, I'M NOT AWARE I THE EROSION RIGHT NOW.
UM, I THINK IT'S AG NOW, SO IT'S AGRICULTURAL.
SO, UM, BUT IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, WE, WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP THAT.
AND THAT'LL BE INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
SO IT'LL BE SILT FENCE AND EROSION CONTROL MEASURES.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE DETENTION BASINS IN THERE FOR SEDIMENT TRAPS.
ANYONE ELSE TO TESTIFY?
WE'LL GO INTO REGULAR COMMITTEE MODE.
I'M GONNA READ 6 0 7 5 AGAIN, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING DISTRICT'S ESTABLISHED PURSUANT
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TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BY REZONING A CERTAIN 126 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE TRACK FROM DISTRICT AGRICULTURAL TO DISTRICT RESIDENTIAL ESTATES.DO I HAVE AN MOTION ON 6 0 7 5? I MOVE THAT WE, UM, RELEASE ORDINANCE 6 0 7 5 TO LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE SECOND.
ALL THOSE MR. CHAIRMAN IN FAVOR SAY AYE MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
ARE WE, UH, MOVING THIS WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION? YES.
SO SORRY, WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION.
I SEE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? NO LAND USE WILL RECOMMEND OR LAND USE WILL SEND TO THE BODY AS A WHOLE WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, CAN SOMEONE, UH, MAYBE IT'S MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE OR YOURSELF, GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TO THE FULL LEGISLATIVE BODY? 'CAUSE I THINK SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A FULL TESTIMONY HERE THAT HAPPENED THAT THEY WON'T BE AWARE OF UNLESS WE'VE BEEN HERE.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I, NO OFFENSE TO RANDY, BUT I THINK THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THIS ISSUE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE HAS.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE BOTH OF THOSE SIDES ARE PROVIDED PERSPECTIVE BEFORE WE ASK THE LEGISLATURE TO TAKE ACTION ON IT.
SO, ALL RIGHT, WELL LET RANDY, IF YOU COULD COME TO THE REGULAR MEETING
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPPOSED, I, I'LL ALLOW FOR IN DISCUSSION IF WE WANT TO HAVE LEGISLATORS REFER TO SOMEONE SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF, OF PERSPECTIVE.
UM, I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE GOVERNMENT, THEORETICALLY THE ATTORNEY ADVOCACY AND NO ONE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO ADVOCATE, UM, FOR OR AGAINST.
SO I WANNA MAKE THAT OPTION AVAILABLE IF THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMITTEE.
SO ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME, PLEASE COME.
SO WE'RE NOW DONE WITH 6 0 7 5 UNTIL THE THREE O'CLOCK MEETING.
[6081 AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 5.00± acre tract from District AG (Agricultural) to District RE (Residential Estates).]
6 0 8 1 AMENDING THE ZONING DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BY REZONING A CERTAIN FIVE PLUS OR MINUS ACRE TRACT FROM DISTRICT AGRICULTURE TO DISTRICT RESIDENTIAL ESTATES.AND WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT AT TWO 15 ON THE 22ND OF JUNE.
YEAH, ANYONE THAT WANTS TO LEAVE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
NOTHING HAPPENING ON THIS TILL THREE O'CLOCK.
[6082 AN ORDINANCE enacting section 5511., of the Jackson County Code, 1984, relating to prohibiting the open burning of household waste within Jackson County, Missouri, in accordance with state air quality laws, and establishing penalties for violations.]
6 0 8 2 ENACTING SECTION 7 5 5 1, 1 OF THE JACKSON COUNTY CODE 180 4 RELATING TO PROHIBITING THE OPEN BURNING OF HOUSEHOLD WASTE.LEMME ASK THE BE QUIET PLEASE.
WITHIN JACKSON COUNTY, MISSOURI, IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE AIR QUALITY LAWS AND ESTABLISHING PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, DO WE HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS? MR. CHAIRMAN? JAYLEN, MR. CHAIRMAN? UH, I HAD BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, DIFFERENT COMPLAINTS, UM, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY, UM, WITH THE AMOUNT OF BURNING THAT HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE OF HOUSEHOLD GOODS, UH, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTING AIR QUALITY THROUGHOUT EASTERN JACKSON COUNTY, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, EVEN UP TO BLUE SUMMIT, UM, AND TARZAN LAKE.
UM, WHAT THIS COVERS IS THAT, UH, ALL HOUSEHOLD GOODS, UM, WOULD BE PROHIBITED.
IT FOLLOWS WHAT, UH, THE STATE LAW, UH, MENTIONS.
UH, AND ALSO, UH, UH, DOESN'T GO PAST THE IDEA THAT IF YOU ARE A FARM, UH, AND WANT TO BURN AGRICULTURAL THINGS, UH, YOU ARE STILL ALLOWED TO DO SO.
WHAT THIS IS DOING IS MAKING, UM, SO THAT, UH, LIKE BURNING OF CERTAIN TRASH AND, AND, AND JUST RANDOM THINGS THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE THAT WE, UH, WON'T BE BURNING.
THAT THE REASON OF THIS BEING IS, UM, THE DIFFERENT, UH, COMPLAINTS, UH, FROM CONSTITUENTS, UM, RELATING TO THE EXCESSIVENESS OF BURNING.
UM, AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF HOW STRETCHED THIN OUR, UM, OUR, UH, RURAL FIRE, UH, DISTRICTS ARE.
UH, THE ACCESS TO, UM, DEAL WITH ANY FIRE THAT MAY GET OUT OF CONTROL, UH, IS MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT.
I'D ASKED, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, THE FIRE DISTRICTS, UH, THEIR OPINIONS ON THIS AND WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN, UH, IS THAT THERE IS A MORE EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF BURNING GOING ON.
UM, AND, UH, THEY, UH, THEY, UH, ARE UNDERSTAND, UH, THIS ORDINANCE, UM,
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AND, UH, DID HAVE HAVE ANY, UM, OBJECTIONS TO IT.UM, SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TO THE BODY.
I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE CITIES WITHIN, UM, JACKSON COUNTY THAT HAVE BURN ORDINANCES THEMSELVES THAT, THAT PROHIBIT BURNING, THAT HAVE THAT PERMIT BURNING OF ANY TYPE? I BELIEVE RAYTOWN EXACTLY THE ONE I WAS THINKING OF.
NOW, HOW WOULD THIS IMPACT RAY TOWN'S BURNING ORDINANCE? THIS IS JUST FOR UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY.
BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THERE.
THAT'S JUST GENERALLY THE WAY IT WORKS.
BUT TYPICALLY ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES ARE FOR US.
YEAH, THAT'S, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN ONLY APPLY TO UNINCORPORATED AREAS FOR US TO, UH, ENFORCE THAT.
BUT WHICH SUCH AN ORDINANCE, WOULD IT IMPACT ANY CITIES WITHIN JACKSON COUNTY? NOT THAT WE'LL DO VIOLATIONS, BUT WILL IT IMPACT ANY CITIES AND THEIR ORDINANCES? FOR INSTANCE, IT'S BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THIS IS A STATE AIR, AIR QUALITY CONCERN.
SO, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT AND BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH TO FOLLOWING STATE STATUTES, WILL THIS IN ANY WAY IMPACT ANY CITIES WITHIN JACKSON COUNTY, UM, THAT HAVE PERMITTED BURNING WHITNEY MILLER WITH THE COUNTY COUNSELOR'S OFFICE OFF THE CUFF? I CANNOT THINK THAT IT WOULD.
UH, BUT ADMITTEDLY THAT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT I HAVE RESEARCHED.
UH, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO IF THAT'S A QUESTION THAT THE BODY HAS.
IS THE QUESTION THAT, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS WOULD IMPACT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE IT IN RAYTOWN? IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? CORRECT.
BECAUSE IT'S MENTIONED THAT, UH, WE ARE GOING TO ALIGN OURSELVES WITH THE STATE LAWS AND I KNOW THAT, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.
I KNOW THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO RURAL FIRE DISTRICTS, UM, BUT WHAT IS GOING, AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER CITIES BESIDES RAYTOWN BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO WHERE I'M AT.
SO I KNOW THEY BURN, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR BURNING ORDINANCE LOOKS LIKE.
AND WOULD IT, IN FACT, IF WE ENFORCE THIS FOR JACKSON COUNTY OR WE MAKE THIS APPLICABLE TO JACKSON COUNTY, WILL IT IN ANY WAY IMPACT WHAT THEY HAVE AS PERMITTED? WOULD THEY HAVE TO, WOULD IT BE OKAY, JACKSON COUNTY DOES THIS? I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T ENFORCE IT IN ANY OTHER CITY, BUT WHEN IT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT, AND I THINK MY THING IS ARE WE, IS THAT WE ARE ASSURED THAT ANY CITIES, AND IT MAY BE MORE, I DON'T KNOW IN JACKSON COUNTY, THAT THEY ALSO ADHERE TO THE STATE OR WILL THIS IN ANY WAY NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEM OR CAUSE THEM TO HAVE TO REALIGN THEIR ORDINANCES? WELL, WHAT THIS DOES IS THAT THIS ALLOWS, THIS IS ALLOWING US TO PASS IT THAT FOLLOWS THE STATE.
OR IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS ENACTED IN YOUR MUNICIPALITY, THEN YOU DON'T, IT'S NOT SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO FOR FOLLOW THE STATE LAW.
WHAT IT'S SAYING IS THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE FOLLOWING AFTER THAT RIGHT'S NOT DIRECTLY SAYING TO, UH, RAYTOWN WHO CAN MAKE ITS OWN LAWS, THAT IT HAS TO FOLLOW THE STATE STATUTE.
IT'S SAYING THAT JACKSON COUNTY IS GOING TO FOLLOW THE STATE STATUTE.
SO THE, THIS, THE ONLY WAY THEY WOULD BE EVEN CONNECTED INTO THIS IS IF THEY PASSED SOMETHING THAT FOLLOWS STATE STATUTE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN LAID OUT IF YOU WANTED TO DO THIS, OR IF THEY WERE IN SOMEHOW WITH OUR CHANGE, IF THEY WERE SOMEHOW PROMPTED TO DO SO BY OTHER ENTITIES OTHER THAN FROM WITHIN THEIR OWN MUNICIPALITY.
AND THAT'S REALLY JUST MY QUESTION.
WOULD IT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THEM AT ALL? AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THEN FINE.
BUT IF WE'RE ENACTING AN ORDINANCE THAT COULD ULTIMATELY CHANGE THEIR ORDINANCE.
WE CAN SIT HERE AND SAY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO IF THEY DON'T WANT TO.
BUT WILL IT BE THAT WAY? WILL THIS IMPACT THEN, UH, WILL THIS ORDINANCE IMPACT THEM? AND I THINK WHAT, UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR ORDINANCE IS, SO IT'S VERY HARD TO COMMENT ON IT.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT ORDINANCE ALREADY ALIGNS WITH STATE STATUTE, UM, OR I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER CITIES WITHIN JACKSON COUNTY THAT ALLOW BURNING OTHER THAN AN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY.
I MEAN, AND THAT'S THUS MY QUESTION.
I MEAN, I CAN WRITE SOMETHING RIGHT NOW AND IT'LL SAY ONLY UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT THE ISSUE IS, THEN LET'S JUST WRITE SOMETHING.
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I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTY DO, UM, HAVE SUCH REQUIREMENTS.WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE NUMBER ON THIS ORDINANCE? 6 0 6 0 8 2 6.
UM, ALSO IF YOU'D LIKE TO JUST, I MEAN IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO JUST MOVE IT OUT TO LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE.
I COULD TRY AND DRAFT, LIKE TYPE IT UP BEFORE THE THREE O'CLOCK IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
OR YOU COULD JUST WRITE IT RIGHT NOW AND I'M JUST GONNA WRITE IT RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO I GUESS THIS WOULD BE UNDER, UM, ENFORCEMENT 3 0 8 2.
I WOULD MAKE IT A BE IT ORDAINED.
AND THE ACTUAL CODE LANGUAGE ITSELF? YES.
THAT THIS ORDINANCE BE APPLICABLE, IS THAT CORRECT? BE APPLICABLE FOR UNINCORPORATED ENFORCEABLE.
AND THEN ONLY IN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY.
THIS ORDINANCE SHALL ONLY BE ENFORCEABLE IN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY.
IN UN OR APPLICABLE IN UN IN COURT.
HMM? WERE WE SAYING ENFORCEABLE OR APPLICABLE? AH, WE KNOW IT'S ONLY ENFORCEABLE IN JACK IN ATTORNEY INCORPORATED IT, BUT WILL IT BE ONLY APPLICABLE? YOU COULD PUT BUT I, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE.
I THINK LEGALLY WHAT MATTERS IS ENFORCEABILITY.
UM, BUT I THINK YOU COULD PUT BOTH WORDS IN IF THAT MAKES THE BODY OKAY.
I FORGOT HOW TO SPELL APPLICABLE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
SO BE IT ORDAINED THAT THIS ORDINANCE BE ENFORCEABLE AND APPLICABLE IN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY.
I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND FINDING A PLACE IN THE CODE LANGUAGE ITSELF, THE PART THAT'S UNDERLINED UHHUH AND PUTTING THE SAME SENTENCE THERE.
AND THEN YOU COULD JUST DRAW AN ARROW DOWN TO WHERE YOU WANT IT.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT 'CAUSE WHEN WE'RE READING THE CODE, THEY'RE OFTEN NOT LOOKING BACK AT THE ORDINANCE THAT EFFECTUATED IT.
SO PUTTING THAT IN THE ACTUAL CODE ITSELF IS HELPFUL TOO.
SO PUTTING IT LIKE AT 5 5 5 1 1 0.9.
BY CREATING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IT'LL BE AFTER PENALTIES AND IT'LL SAY BE IT ORDAINED THAT THIS ORDINANCE BE ENFORCEABLE AND APPLICABLE.
SHOULD IT BE ONLY IN ONLY, ONLY ONLY AND I'LL TYPE THIS UP BEFORE THE THREE O'CLOCK MEETING.
SO ONLY UN INCORPORATED IN JACKSON COUNTY.
DO YOU ALL WANT ME TO READ THAT TO YOU AGAIN? OR WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO? EITHER WAY? OKAY.
AFTER, UH, IN THE, IN THE LEGISLATION, UH, UNDER PENALTIES WILL BE A NEW SECTION 5 5 1 1 9.
UM, BESIDES IT BEING BE IT ORDAINED, UH, AT THE TOP, IT'LL THEN SAY 5 5 1 1 9 0.9 WILL SAY, BE, UH, THAT THIS ORDINANCE BE ENFORCEABLE AND APPLICABLE ONLY IN UNINCORPORATED JACKSON COUNTY.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, APPROVE THE AMENDMENT.
OPPOSED? THE LAND USE WILL RECOMMEND SET SIX.
OH, WE ONLY APPROVE THE AMENDMENT.
RIGHT? SO WE JUST SET THE AMENDMENT.
SO NOW YOU NEED TO VOTE TO RECOMMEND ADOPTION, RIGHT IS, UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION.
UM, ORDINANCE 6 0 8 2 AS AMENDED SECOND.
OPPOSED? LAND USE FOR RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF 6 0 8 2 AS AMENDED.
LL BE PIPED UP BY THREE O'CLOCK.
RERE I'LL THAT RESOLUTION 2 2 2 6 5.
[RESOLUTIONS IN COMMITTEE]
[22265 A RESOLUTION awarding a contract for the purchase of an 8900A Precision Cut Large Reel Mower for use by the Parks + Rec Department to John Deere & Company of Cary, NC under the terms and conditions of Sourcewell Contract No. 112624-DAC, an existing, competitively bid government contract, at an actual cost to the County in the amount of $100,610.00, and declaring certain existing equipment as surplus personal property and authorizing its disposal by way of trade-in.]
AWARDING A CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF 89 0 0.A PRECISION CUT LARGE REEL MOW FOR USE BY THE PARKS PLUS REC DEPARTMENT TO JOHN DEERE AND COMPANY OF KERRY, NORTH CAROLINA.
AND ARE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SOURCE? WELL, CONTRACT NUMBER 1 1 2 6 2 4 DASH EIGHT DAC, AN EXISTING COMPETITIVELY BID GOVERNMENT CONTRACT AND AN ACTUAL COST OF THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,610, DECLARING CERTAIN EXISTING EQUIPMENT AS SURPLUS PERSONAL PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZING ITS DISPOSAL BY WAY OF TRADE IN.
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TALK ON THIS? UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION, WE WILL HOLD 2, 2, 2 6 5 OH.IT WAS ABOUT MY ORDINANCE THAT I WAS GONNA BRING UP.
I THINK I ACCIDENTALLY MOVED TO, UH, ADOPT AND I MEANT TO.
OH, WE WILL NOTE THAT JALEN WANTS TO SO NOTED.
IS THERE ANY BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE? IF NOT, LAND USE IS ADJOURNED.