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[6125 AN ORDINANCE amending the zoning districts established pursuant to the Unified Development Code by rezoning a certain 12.00± acre tract from District AG (Agricultural) to District RE (Residential Estates).]
I'M CHARLIE FRANKLIN.EACH LEGISLATOR HAS BEEN PROVIDED A SCRIPT FOR THE PLAN COMMISSION HEARING, SO WE'LL NOT ACCEPT ANY REPEAT THAT WERE PROVIDED AT THAT MEETING.
THE COMMITTEE WILL ONLY HEAR NEW OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TODAY.
ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY MIGHT WANT TO TESTIFY AT ALL, PLEASE ARISE.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY AFFIRM UNDER THE PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE SHALL BE IN THE MATTER? IN THE MATTER IN ISSUE? SHALL BE TRUE? THE WHOLE TRUTH, THE TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
AMENDING THE ZONING DISTRICT'S ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BY REZONING A CERTAIN 12 ACRE TRACT FROM DISTRICT AGRICULTURAL TO DISTRICT RESIDENTIAL ESTATES.
I'M RANDY DEAL WITH JACKSON COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.
THIS IS JORDAN BUTCHER AT 34 9 0 6 EAST COLBURN ROAD ON 12 ACRES.
WE'RE GOING FROM AGRICULTURAL TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATES.
THE PURPOSE IS TO CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
ZONING IN THE AREA IS AGRICULTURAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
THERE ARE SOME RR ZONINGS IN THE AREA WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL ESTATES AS WELL.
UH, THE OVERALL LAND USE IN THE AREA ARE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
THERE ARE PLATTED LOTS FROM TWO ACRES TO FIVE ACRES AND SOME LARGER ONES.
MOST OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS WERE DEVELOPED PRIOR TO 1995 AND THE THEREFORE UNDER DISTRICT, UH, AG AGRICULTURAL, THERE ARE SOME LARGER TRACKS WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND A FEW OF THEM IN THE AREA THAT ARE BEING FARMED.
THE APPLICANT PURCHASED, UH, APPROXIMATELY 42 ACRES.
TWO 10 ACRE TRACKS HAVE BEEN SEPARATED THROUGH A CERTIFICATE OF SURVEY FILED WITH A RECORDER OF OFFICE.
THEY'RE PROPOSING AN ADDITIONAL 10 ACRE TRACT ALONG WITH AN EIGHT AND A THREE ACRE LOT.
THE EXISTING DWELLING IS ON THE THREE ACRE LOT.
THERE WAS ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THERE WAS 500 FEET OF FRONTAGE ALONG COLBURN ROAD DEEDS AND CONFIRMATION BY THE SURVEY SHOWED THAT THERE WAS AC ACTUALLY 373 FEET.
THE PROPERTY LINES ON THE TAX MAPS CREATED A DISCREPANCY.
SO BECAUSE OF THE DEFICIT DISTRICT, RR WASN'T FEASIBLE 'CAUSE THEY COULD NOT MEET THE 250 FOOT, UH, ROAD FRONTAGE.
SINCE THERE ARE SIMILAR AND SMALLER LOTS IN THE VICINITIES DISTRICT, RE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND THAT ONLY REQUIRED 180 FEET OF ROAD FRONTAGE.
THE BUILDABLE AREA FOR LOT EIGHT WOULD BE NORTH OF THE POND.
AND THE PLAN, THIS IS IN THE RURAL DEVELOPMENT TIER.
THE PLAN COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THE APPLICANT TO ATTEND.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? JORDAN BUTCHER.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO TESTIFY IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL? IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO TESTIFY AGAINST THE PROPOSAL? DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE ANYBODY ELSE? YES, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
[RESOLUTIONS IN COMMITTEE]
[22404 A RESOLUTION declaring certain County-owned land as surplus real property and authorizing the Administration to solicit bids for selling one (1) surplus parcel.]
AND MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR MEETING.WE HAVE RESOLUTION 22 4 0 4 DECLARING CERTAIN COUNTY OWNED LAND AND SURPLUS REAL PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATION TO SOLICIT BIDS FOR SELLING ONE SURPLUS PARCEL.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR THAT WE HAVE A NEW DETENTION CENTER AND WE HAVE A NEW DETENTION CENTER, IT MEANS WE HAVE AN OLD DETENTION CENTER AND WE HAVE A WHOLE CITY BLOCK OVER THERE THAT HAS THOSE TWO TOWERS THAT ARE, UH, UH, UNABLE TO MAKE ANYTHING OUT OF.
WE HAVE THE OLD, UH, FACILITY THAT'S NEXT TO THE READER BUILDING AND THEN WE HAVE HAVE THE 1305 BUILDING.
UM, I WANT TO SEE WHAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD BRING ON THE MARKET TO PRESENT TO THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY ON.
IF IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME MONEY, UM, IT'S GOING TO SIT THERE, IT'S GONNA COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TAKE DOWN THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
AND THERE COULD BE SOMEONE THAT MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OR THE ABILITY TO WANT TO PURCHASE THAT CITY BLOCK AND DEVELOP IT.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, AND ANYONE LISTENING, THE THE, THE PROCESS OF MAKING SOMETHING A SURPLUS PROPERTY ONLY MEANS THAT WE CAN PUT IT OUT FOR BID AND LET ANYONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY SUBMIT A BID FOR A 30 DAY PERIOD.
WHAT HAPPENS THEN? IT COMES AND THOSE BIDS ARE LOOKED AT AND BROUGHT TO THIS BODY AND THEN THIS BODY DECIDES WHETHER IT'S WORTH SELLING OR NOT SELLING.
AND THE BODY ACTS ON DOING THAT.
SO IT'S, WE CAN'T GET THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE BY THINKING SOMEONE MIGHT WANNA BUY IT.
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IT A SURPLUS PROPERTY.WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT FOR BIDS AND SEE, I HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER IT IS.
I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT IN JACKSON COUNTY'S HISTORY, UH, IT'S TIME TO START MAKING SOME MONEY.
IT'S TIME TO START MAKING THINGS THAT ARE, THAT COULD BE SITTING BLIGHTED FOR YEARS.
UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU ALL THE CHOICE TO SAY, HEY, WE MOVE ON SOMETHING OR, OR WE DON'T.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO, TO, UH, TALK TO YOU.
YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE, THE MAP OF THE AREA AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS GO MR. CHAIR, UH, TO INQUIRE.
UH, THIS, THIS, UH, RESOLUTION INCLUDES SEVERAL PROPERTIES.
IS THAT RIGHT? IT UH, AS FAR AS PROPERTIES, YES.
THE ENTIRE THING OF THE JAIL, THE TWO JAIL TOWERS, THE UH, UH, THE JAIL FACILITY, THAT'S THE, UH, ANNEX, THE OLD READER BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY RIGHT OF THE CORNER OF 13TH AND OAK.
I I THINK I WOULD PREFER THE DETENTION CENTER STAND ON ITS OWN.
UH, I I THINK THE OTHER PROPERTIES HAVE SOME, SOME, UM, CONSIDERATIONS OF THEIR OWN.
AREN'T AREN'T THEY NOT BEING USED NOW? THEY THEY ARE BEING USED.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT EVERYTHING IS SO INTERTWINED TO KEEP THE, ANY SORT OF HVAC AND FACILITIES GOING IN THE READER BUILDING OR OTHER ONE, IT HAS TO GO WITH THE, THE TOWERS.
SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE UTILITIES TO THE EMPTY TOWERS TO KEEP ALL THOSE OTHER BUILDINGS GOING.
WE, IT DOESN'T HAVE ITS OWN SOURCE.
UH, THAT'S THE PROBLEM TO, TO JUST SAY THE JAIL TOWER IS A SURPLUS PRACTICE.
AND THE OTHER BUILDINGS, IF WE SOLD IT, THEY HAVE NO WAY TO POWER THEIR HVAC.
SO, UM, I GUESS THAT WAS EFFICIENT WAY TO BUILD IT WHEN THEY DID.
IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A EFFICIENT WAY FOR US TO TAKE IT APART.
WOULD THAT NOT BE UP TO THE BUYER TO SEPARATE THAT OUT AND, AND MAKE IT FUNCTIONAL EACH ON ITS OWN? WITHOUT A DOUBT.
AND ANOTHER, UH, OF YOUR CONCERNS MAYBE LEGISLA ALLOW, IS THAT ANYTHING? THAT WILL ME BACK UP.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON A, A OPERATION RELOCATION AND TRY TO PUT SOME PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT SPOTS.
THE, THE, THE GOAL IS TO MOVE CRIMINAL RECORDS OVER FROM THAT BUILDING OVER TO THE COURTHOUSE AND UP ON THE 10TH FLOOR WHERE THE COURT HAS SOME ROOM THAT WOULD MAKE ALMOST THE READER BUILDING COMPLETELY EMPTY.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, UH, FAMILY SUPPORT NEEDS SOME, AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE SOMEWHERE.
'CAUSE WE'RE, WE HAVE A PRIVATE LEASE WITH THEM AT THE WALNUT TOWERS AND SO WE CAN MOVE THEM OVER WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
AND MY, UH, VISION WOULD BE IF, IF A BUYER, IF THIS BODY SAID WE HAVE A BUYER, WE WOULD ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH THEM, LIKE TO SAY FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR YEAR AND A HALF, WE WILL STILL OCCUPY THE READER BUILDING WITH OUR COUNTY STAFF AND NOT HAVE TO BE TAKEN OUT IMMEDIATELY.
OTHER QUESTIONS? JAYLEN? THANKS SIR.
UH, SO IT, THERE IS A PLAN TO MOVE STAFF IF THIS WOULD GO INTO PLACE? YEAH, WELL, YES.
THERE, THERE WOULD BE A PLAN BEFORE THIS BODY WOULD SAY, HEY, YEAH, WE SHOULD SELL IT.
I'D GIVE YOU A PLAN OF HERE'S WHERE WE WOULD MOVE PEOPLE.
UM, HERE'S WOULD BE THE, THE, UH, THE CONTRACT WITH THE BUYER SAYING THAT THEY WOULD AGREE TO LEASE US BACK FOR FREE FOR A YEAR TO HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT SPOT OR SOMETHING.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S A COMPLICATED THING, BUT IF IT'S NOT PERFECT, THEN WE WON'T DO IT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DUCKS IN A ROW AND DOMINOES WOULD HAVE TO FALL.
BUT, UM, I, I WOULDN'T JUST WANNA SAY WE SELL IT AND, AND SELLS TOMORROW AND WE HAVE STAFF JUST SITTING THERE WITH NOWHERE TO GO.
IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE NOW? THERE IS A PLAN IN PLACE NOW TO MOVE THEM FROM THE READER BUILDING? YES.
NO, WITH, WITH IT EXISTING NOW WE OWN IT.
WE HAVE TO KEEP THE UPKEEP ON IT.
UH, WE'LL HAVE FAMILY SUPPORT AND PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE IN THERE WHEN THIS NEXT MOVE.
CRIMINAL RECORDS MOVES OVER PROBABLY LATE THIS WINTER, IF NOT EARLY JANUARY.
AND FAMILY SUPPORT WILL GO OVER THERE.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE AS LONG AS WE OWN THE PROPERTY AND WE'RE HAVING THE UPKEEP WE HAVE, IT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR THEM AND THEY WILL STAY THERE UNTIL WE DECIDE TO MOVE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND WITH IT BEING OVER THERE, WHAT'S, WHAT WOULD BE A PLAN WITH THAT? YEAH, THAT'S, SINCE THAT ALL HAS TO BE MOVED IN YEP.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE TO MOVE THEM.
SO THEY'RE THERE NOW ALSO AND THEY NEED TO BE MOVED.
SO AGAIN, THE THE PLAN WOULD BE WHETHER IT'S, UH, OPPORTUNITY THAT'S FEASIBLE TO MAKE SOME MONEY FOR THE COUNTY AND WE LIKE THAT IDEA.
AND THEN THE NEXT THING IS HOW DO WE MOVE STAFF AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE TAKEN CARE OF IN A TIMELY MANNER? AND NOTHING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
I, I'LL JUST SAY THIS AND, AND I KNOW WE CAN DISAGREE, BUT I WOULD RATHER US HAVE A PLAN IF WE'RE GOING TO PLAN TO PUT SOMETHING OUT INTO THE MARKET TO THAT WE APPROVE THIS, UM, NOT TO SELL IT AUTOMATICALLY WITH THIS VOTE.
BUT TO HAVE A MOVING PLAN ALREADY IN PLACE THAT WOULD HELP ME, UH, DEAL WITH THIS,
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UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS VOTE, I'LL JUST SAY THAT.WELL THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S KIND OF, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE CARDBOARD OF THE HORSE.
WE DON'T WANNA PLAN ON MOVING PEOPLE IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE'RE NOT MOVING 'EM, WE JUST MOVE THEM OVER THERE.
AND I AGREE AND I THINK, UH, A PLAN OF MOVING THEM AND A PLAN OF SELLING A CITY BLOCK THIS BIG WILL TAKE A WHILE AND A PLAN CAN HAPPEN QUICKLY TO MOVE THAT, MOVE THOSE STAFF.
UM, LIKE EVERY OTHER PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, WE NEED TO MAKE A PLAN TO MOVE THEM UNLESS WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT THIS SURPLUS THING'S ALL ABOUT.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE MIGHT EVEN NOT BID ON IT IN 30 DAYS.
SO I DON'T WANT STAFF TO THINK THEY'RE BEING MOVED.
I THINK THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WHERE THEY ARE.
UH, THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE IS EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FROM WHERE THEY ARE IN THE WALNUT TOWERS TO A COUNTY FACILITY AND SITTING THERE AND I, I DON'T WANT TO GET THEM THINKING, OH, YOU'RE GONNA MOVE.
'CAUSE THEY WOULDN'T MOVE FOR A YEAR EVEN.
UM, THAT WOULD BE A TERM OF THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY IS WE WILL REMAIN STAFF THERE FOR A YEAR.
AND THAT GIVES US, AND BUYS US THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
IT'S JUST THE, THE, THE PHIL PHILOSOPHY IS DO WE WANT TO TAKE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO USE AND WILL COST US MILLIONS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO, TO DEVELOP OR TAKE DOWN? OR DO WE JUST SIT ON IT? AND THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.
I, I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO DO IT.
YOU KNOW, I GOT 95 DAYS HERE LEFT AND THAT'S FOR THE NEXT EXECUTIVE, NEXT LEGISLATURE TO DEAL ON.
BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE COUNTY SOME MONEY AND THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE AND WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PUT APARTMENTS IN THERE OR CONDOS THERE.
IT'S, IT, IT HAS TO COME DOWN.
I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON LEGISLATOR ANDERSON'S, UH, COMMENT.
SO MOVING THE PEOPLE, WE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SURPLUS PROPERTY NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CONSIDER.
UH, SO IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE PEOPLE, WE HAVE NO PROPERTY TO TAKE THEM TO.
SO THIS WOULD REQUIRE US, UH, ACQUIRING ADDITIONAL COST, UH, FOR PROPERTY TO PUT THESE PEOPLE IN.
WOULD IT NOT? WELL, IF WE'RE GETTING $10 MILLION FOR THE, THE, UH, CITY BLOCK, WE'LL HAVE SOME PROP ABILITY TO DO THAT.
WE DEFINITELY HAVE SPOTS TO PUT PEOPLE.
UM, THESE ARE THE LAST TWO SURPLUSES THAT, THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION'S GONNA PROPOSE THAT WE DO.
UM, BUT TAKING THE, THE 30, 20 TO 30 PEOPLE FROM THE FAMILY SUPPORT DIVISION AND MOVING THEM SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT THING TO DO.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A COST.
I MEAN, WE'RE MOVING FROM WALNUT TOWERS OVER THERE TOO, AND IT'S, THERE'S, IT'S NOT A BIG COST OF US TO DO IT.
SO MOVING THEM TO A NEW FACILITY SOMEWHERE ELSE, 1300 WASHINGTON, SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE CAN FIND A LOCATION FOR THEM.
EVEN THE, EVEN THE COURTHOUSE, WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT TOO WITH OUR RENOVATION DOWNSTAIRS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT OF WHERE WE WOULD MOVE THEM AND HAVING A YEAR'S TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PUT, UH, THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, THE FAMILY SUPPORT DIVISION OF THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THINKING ABOUT HOLDING THIS OR MR. CHAIR? I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING THIS TODAY.
I I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE MOVEMENT OF PROPERTY OR MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE.
IS THAT A HOLD WOULD BE FINE OR I WILL MOVE TO HOLD I SECOND.
[22405 A RESOLUTION declaring certain County-owned land as surplus real property and authorizing the Administration to solicit bids for selling two (2) surplus parcels.]
WILL BE HELD 22 4 0 5 DECLARING CERTAIN COUNTY OWNED LAND AND SURPLUS REAL PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZING ADMINISTRATION TO SOLICIT BIDS FOR SELLING TWO SURPLUS PAR PARCELS.MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I AGAIN COME TO YOU WITH THE RESOLUTION TO TRY AND MAKE JACKSON COUNTY SOME MONEY.
WE HAVE A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY AT 500 EAST 26TH STREET, WHICH IS AN OLD HOME THAT'S BEEN, UH, RENOVATED TO HOLD SOME FAMILY, A FAMILY COURT PROGRAM FACILITY.
AND THERE'S A LITTLE STRETCH OF PROPERTY BEHIND THAT LITTLE PARKING LOT THERE.
UM, DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYTHING, BUT, UM, 50 FEET AWAY FROM THERE IS GONNA BE HOME PLATE OF THE ROYAL STADIUM.
IT HAS POTENTIAL TO, UH, BE SOMETHING THAT A BUYER WOULD WANT TO BUY, COULD MAKE THE COUNTY SOME MONEY.
UM, UH, LOCATING THE STAFF IN THERE OF THE 10 TO 15 PEOPLE IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH FAMILY COURT AND MOVING THEM SOMEWHERE IN JACKSON COUNTY.
AND I AM OF THE OPINION, I'D LOVE TO PUT IT OUT IN THE MARKET AND SEE IF ANYONE IN 30 DAYS WANTS TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO TO BUY SOMETHING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ROYAL STADIUM.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DO I HAVE A MOTION? UM, AND I'M SURE, AND AGAIN, I, I KNOW YOU'RE HAVING ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS, BUT MY, MY QUESTION IS, AND WHAT GIVES ME PAUSE IS THAT IF, IF FAMILY COURT OR IS THIS FAMILY COURT OR THE, THE COURTS IN AND OF ITSELF, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS
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AND THEY COME TO US WITH QUESTIONS AND SAY, WE ARE NOT SURE HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK, I, I WORRY ABOUT THE PROCESS AND MAYBE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'VE SAID OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.SO, BUT IT GIVES ME PAUSE AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE ARE HERE FOR 95 DAYS, UM, AND SINCE NONE OF THIS IS GONNA BE SOLVED IN OUR 95 DAYS, AND I UNDERSTAND ABOUT SELLING THE PROPERTIES, I'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE IN THE PAST, BUT I'VE, I WORRY ABOUT THE, THE CONVERSATION THAT'S WHERE I AM BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THOSE AND I OF COURSE THAT'S YOUR JOB TO DO IT.
I JUST WORRY THAT WHY WOULD FOLKS COME TO US AND SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THIS? WELL, I, I WOULD THINK THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T, AREN'T SURE WHAT THE PROCESS IS, WHAT THEY SHOULD COME TO YOU WITH IS IF YOU DO MAKE THIS SURPLUS PROPERTY AND WE DO GET AN OFFER AND THE NEXT MEETING IS WHETHER YOU VOTE TO SELL IT OR NOT, THAT'S THE TIME THEY SHOULD COME TO YOU.
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU SHOULD HAVE PAUSE TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS OF WHY THEY DON'T THINK THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE SOLD AND WHY THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF IT WAS SOLD.
RIGHT NOW, THE UH, UH, WHAT THE FRUSTRATING PART OF THIS IS, IS THAT, UH, ANYONE, UH, OUTSIDE OF THIS IN THE CHAMBER, IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE COURTS NOT UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS OF SURPLUS, IT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING EXCEPT ALLOW US TO SEE IF ANYONE WANTS TO BUY IT.
IF THEY DO, IT COMES BACK IN FRONT OF THIS BODY.
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU ASK ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND SAY, WELL, WHERE ARE YOU GONNA PUT PEOPLE? HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE? WHO HAS CONCERNS? WHY WOULD THIS WORK? IS THIS ENOUGH MONEY? ALL THAT? THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN ALL DOWN THE LINE.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER SOMEONE WOULD BID ON THIS OR NOT.
I HAVE THE, UH, A SUSPICION THAT THE DEVELOPING, UH, BRAND NEW ROYAL STADIUM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, SOMEONE MIGHT WANNA GIVE THE COUNTY A BUNCH OF MONEY AND I'M IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING COUNTY MONEY.
SO, UH, IT'S THE PROCESS THAT I WOULD JUST REITERATE WITH ALL OF YOU TOO.
SO ANYONE HAS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, WHETHER THEY'RE FAMILY COURT OR ANYONE ELSE ABOUT SELLING AN OLD PIECE OF PROPERTY? WE'RE NOT THERE.
WE, I HAVEN'T SAID WE'RE SELLING IT, HAVEN'T SAID 'EM TO ANYWAY.
WE ARE TRYING TO, TO FEEL WHAT THE MARKET WOULD WOULD BRING AND THEN IT WOULD COME BEFORE THIS BODY AND YOU GUYS WOULD VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
IT'S BACK TO YOU GUYS AND THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD BRING TO YOU THEN.
BUT TO GET IN THE WAY OF JUST BEING ABLE TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD MAKE MONEY FOR THE COUNTY, THAT'S FRUSTRATING.
WHEN WE ARE DOING TAX CREDITS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BUDGET, A BUDGET ISSUE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND WE HAVE, WE ARE SITTING ON PROPERTY THAT WE WILL NOT USE AND HAS THE ABILITY RIGHT NOW TO HAVE A MARKET VALUE THAT'S SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAT WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
AND I GUESS MY LAST THOUGHT, AND AGAIN, UH, REALLY ABOUT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GETTING, PUTTING THIS OUT THERE FORBID AND THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT SOMEONE COMES BACK AND THEY HAVE A PLAN, UM, WOULDN'T WE HAVE, WOULD RATHER HAD AT LEAST SOME SORT OF MORE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MOVEMENT RATHER THAN WAIT TILL SOMEONE HAS BID? BECAUSE THEN IF THEY COME TO BID, THEN IT KIND OF PUTS IT IN THE WAY OF THAT, WELL, WHY DIDN'T WE HAVE A PLAN BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS POINT TO WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE ON IF WE'RE GONNA APPROVE A CONTRACT? WELL, I CAN HAVE A PLAN FOR YOU TO MOVE THE, THE, THE EIGHT, NINE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN THE DONALDSON HOUSE TOMORROW.
I MEAN, THAT'S FACILITATING THERE.
THAT THEY'RE IN AN OLDER HOME THAT'S BEEN RENOVATED FOR OFFICES.
WE HAVE THE SPORTS COMMISSION BUILDING THAT'S OPEN.
I'M NOT GONNA GO DO TENTATIVE PLANS FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S JUST THE, THE DIFFERENCE OF PHILOSOPHY THAT THE, THE THIS COMMITTEE OR THE LEGISLATURE CAN HAVE.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AND I'M NOT GONNA MAKE CONTINGENCY PLANS ON WHAT I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE WOULD BID IT.
SO I'M NOT GONNA UPROOT THESE PEOPLE AND GET A PLAN AND TRY AND MOVE SOMEONE HERE AND SOMEONE THERE WHEN WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHETHER SOMEONE WOULD, NOW SOME OTHER SURPLUSES THAT ARE HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU IS VACANT LAND.
UM, LIKE THE JACKSON COUNTY ELECTION BOARD IS NOT VACANT, BUT WE GOTTA MOVE THOSE PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, THAT'S OUT FORBID TOO, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUY THAT, WE WILL HAVE TO SAY YES AND I'LL COME BACK TO THIS BODY, HEY, HERE'S AN OFFER, WE SHOULD SELL IT.
AND ONCE, IF THIS BODY SAYS YES, WE GOTTA MOVE THE ELECTION BOARD.
AND WHEN THE, THE NEW BUYER WOULD SAY, WE'RE GONNA NEED SIX MONTHS TO MOVE THE OR A YEAR.
BUT DOING THAT BEFORE I, I, I JUST DON'T SEE THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING THAT.
THANK YOU JEANIE, TO INQUIRE, UH, TO WHAT DEGREE SHOULD THIS, THIS, UM, RESOLUTION BE DONE IN CONCERT WITH THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAMILY COURTS AND, AND THEY ALL BE PUT UNDER ONE UMBRELLA? UH, WELL THIS, THIS PART OF FAMILY COURT A ACTUALLY LEMME BACK UP.
MY ADMINISTRATION'S MEETING WITH FAM WITH BEV THIS WEEK.
THEY SAY THEY HAVE 16 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, FAMILY COURT DOES AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHAT ALL THOSE ARE AND WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO AND, AND MAKE SURE WE'RE UTILIZING ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES.
UM, AS FAR AS, UH, THE, THESE TWO RESOLUTIONS TOGETHER, ONE IS FOR THE CITY BLOCK OF THE OLD JAIL.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE THE, THE, UH, THE
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CRIMINAL RECORDS, BUT WE ALREADY HAD PLANS TO MOVE THEM OVER HERE ACROSS THE STREET.SO THAT FAR AS FAMILY COURT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
UM, THIS ONE IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW AT 26TH AND GILLUM, UM, THAT'S AN OLDER HOUSE.
THE DONALDSON HOUSE, THEY HAVE A FAMILY, A FAMILY COURT, UM, PROGRAM IN THERE MM-HMM
THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY UTILIZE AND MOVE THEM TO ANOTHER LOCATION IF WE HAVEN'T GOT THERE.
MAYBE NO ONE BIDS OR NOT, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING THAT I'VE TALKED TO THE COURTS AND I'VE TALKED TO, TO BEV AND TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE AND, UH, NONE OF THESE DECISIONS WE'VE MADE WITHOUT THEIR INPUT.
AND, UH, WE WOULD COME, UH, JOIN AT THE HIP TO THIS LEGISLATURE SAYING, HERE'S WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION THINKS, HERE'S WHAT FAMILY COURT THINKS, HERE'S HOW WE COULD DO IT.
OPPOSED? LAND USE WILL HOLD 22 4 0 5 IF THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE LAND USE, WE ARE ADJOURN OR.