* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM CALLING THE JUSTICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMITTEE TO ORDER. I AM VANESSA HUSKY, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. THE MEMBERS PRESENT ARE MEGAN SMITH, MYSELF AND, UM, LEGISLATOR, DONNA PEYTON IS SITTING IN. TODAY IS MONDAY, OCTOBER THE 26TH. 2026. AND THE TIME IS 1 47. IN COMMITTEE. IN COMMITTEE WE HAVE ONE ORDINANCE AND ONE RESOLUTION. ORDINANCE [ORDINANCES IN COMMITTEE] [6153 AN ORDINANCE enacting section 5579, Jackson County Code, 1984, relating to the prohibition of transactional sales and distribution of Kratom products and dangerous chemical inhalants in Jackson County, with a penalty provision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declaring certain equipment assigned to the Jackson County Sheriff’s Office as surplus property and authorizing their transfer to the Jackson County Parks + Rec Park Safety Rangers.] MOVING ON TO RESOLUTION, RESOLUTION 2 2 4 3 5. THE RESOLUTION READS A RESOLUTION DECLARING CERTAIN EQUIPMENT ASSIGNED TO JACKSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SURPLUS PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZING THEIR TRANSFER TO THE JACKSON COUNTY PARKS WRECK PARK SAFETY RANGERS. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO TESTIFY? THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE MR. THE GREEN LIGHT ON. HIT THE BUTTON. HELLO, MY NAME'S SERGEANT POWAY WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. CURRENTLY THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER THERE AND I ALSO AM CURRENTLY FILLING IN FOR THE, UH, IT SERGEANT. I'M NO MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THIS. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN? LEGISLATORS SMITH. MADAM CHAIR? YES. I MAY INQUIRE. SO, THI THIS IS, UH, LIKE, UH, CAMERAS BATTERY, SOMETHING THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS USED AND IS NOT GONNA USE ANYMORE. SO INSTEAD OF US JUST THROWING AWAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT SURPLUS AND, AND UTILIZE THE PARK RANGERS MM-HMM . AND WHO, WHO ELSE MIGHT USE THIS? UH, THAT'S CORRECT. SO WHAT HAS OCCURRED IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE UPGRADED THEIR BODY-WORN CAMERAS. WE WENT FROM THESE OLDER STYLES TO THE NEW MODERN UPDATE. MM-HMM . UM, A CAPTAIN FROM THE PARK RANGERS REACHED OUT, THEY SAID THEY WERE HAVING SOME SHORTFALLS IN THEIR EQUIPMENT, ASKED IF WE HAD ANY SPARES. THEIR MODEL IS CURRENTLY OUR OLDER VERSION. SO IN ORDER TO FILL THE GAP BEFORE THEY CAN UPGRADE, UM, WE WANTED TO SHARE THAT EQUIPMENT AND ARE ASKING PERMISSION TO DO SO, ESSENTIALLY SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF BODY-WORN CAMERA. AND WE ARE JUST GONNA SURPLUS 'EM BECAUSE THEY ARE NO LONGER APPLICABLE TO OUR SOFTWARE. EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE'S, UPGRADED, THEY'RE LITERALLY PAPERWEIGHTS TO US. THANK YOU. YEP. SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE LEGISLATION QUESTION? MM-HMM . UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT EXPLANATION. I'M SO SORRY. SERGEANT, WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN? UM, MY NAME'S ELI POSTAL. WAIT, POSTAL WAIT POSTAL. OH, I KNOW YOU . YOU MIGHT KNOW MY UNCLE WHO IS THE SERGEANT HERE. IF YOU SEE HIM, REMIND HIM. I'M THE YOUNGER COOLER POSTAL WEIGHT . OH, I WILL DO THAT. I WILL DO THAT. BUT I KNOW THE NAME NOW. THAT'S SO GOOD. UM, SO WHEN YOU SURPLUS THIS EQUIPMENT MM-HMM . RIGHT NOW, IF I'M THINKING CORRECTLY, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED CAPITAL EQUIPMENT PER SE. OKAY. SO IT'S A, IT, IT'S LOGGED IN SOMEWHERE. IT HAS A NUMBER SOMEWHERE. SO WHEN YOU SURPLUS IT, YOU'RE JUST GIVING IT TO THEM. THERE'S, AND THAT'S IT. IT JUST BECOMES NOT ON THE RECORDS ANYMORE. TRANSFERRED. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS, SO IT'S NO LONGER ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BOOK AS EQUIPMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO SURPLUS TO DESTROY OR SURPLUS TO DONATE TO ANOTHER POLICE AGENCY. WE'RE ASKING TO BASICALLY PUT IT FROM OUR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PARK RANGERS AREA OF RESPONSIBILITIES. UM, THERE ARE SOME BACKEND TECHNOLOGY ASPECTS. MM-HMM . MOTOROLA DOES HAVE TO GO IN AND ASSIGN THE CAMERAS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO THE PARK RANGERS. THAT'S MORE USER INTERFACE SO THAT THEY DON'T ACCIDENTALLY UPGRADE OR UPLOAD EVIDENCE TO OUR EVIDENCE TRACKING SYSTEM AND IT STAYS ON THEIRS. BUT AS FAR AS I THINK YOUR QUESTION, UM, MADAM CHAIR, IT'S ESSENTIALLY ASKING TO BE ASSIGNED FROM US TO THEM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT KIND OF CLEARLY SAYS THAT YOU'RE TRANSFERRING IT. MM-HMM . YES. AND AGAIN, SO SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GIVING UP ALL CONTROL OF IT AND TRANSFERRING THAT CONTROL TO THE PARK RANGERS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SERGEANT POSTAL WHITE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND ADOPTION. [00:10:01] I MOVE TO ADOPT. SECOND. THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND THAT THE, THAT WE RECOMMEND RESOLUTION NUMBER 2, 2 4 3 5 4 ADOPTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THE CHAIR VOTES. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. THE COMMITTEE WILL RECOMMEND RESOLUTION NUMBER 2, 2 4 3 5, 5 4 ADOPTION HAVING NO OTHER BUSINESS COME BEFORE THE JUSTICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMITTEE, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, SIR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.